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Post subject: The DAPL and the standoff at Standing Rock
Posted: Wed November 23, 2016 6:42 pm
Mind Your Tanners
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 10:41 am Posts: 8754 Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Long and short of it is that Dallas based Energy Transfer Partners want to lay pipe under the Missouri River, potentially contaminating the main water source for the Standing Rock Sioux Nation. The pipeline could also potentially destroy sacred sites belonging to the Sioux Nation.
The Federal Government has ignored their duty under the National Historic Preservation Active to consult with the Standing Rock Sioux before approving the pipeline.
Activists from all over North America have been protesting this project and have been the subject of violence via water cannons, rubber bullets and chemical attacks from police, who are acting as militarized unit for Energy Transfer Partners.
Post subject: Re: The DAPL and the standoff at Standing Rock
Posted: Sat November 26, 2016 12:50 pm
Major Dude
Joined: Sat January 05, 2013 1:57 pm Posts: 32507 Location: Where everybody knows your name
Stickman wrote:
The Federal Government has ignored their duty under the National Historic Preservation Active to consult with the Standing Rock Sioux before approving the pipeline.
A story I heard on NPR a month or two back revealed the Gov't did, indeed, try to consult with the Standing Rock Sioux during the planning and the leader(s) of the tribe ignored all requests for meetings.
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Post subject: Re: The DAPL and the standoff at Standing Rock
Posted: Fri December 02, 2016 1:21 am
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From what I understand, the city of Bismarck was the original point where the pipeline was to cross the Missouri Rover. Bismarck was worried about the pipeline contaminating it's municipal water supply.
Post subject: Re: The DAPL and the standoff at Standing Rock
Posted: Sun December 04, 2016 2:24 pm
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14267
McParadigm wrote:
I wonder if anybody following this realizes that it's really just an offshoot from a bigger, uglier problem, which is nationwide permit 12.
McP and his silly "look at the bigger picture to see this ain't an isolated problem" perspective.
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Post subject: Re: The DAPL and the standoff at Standing Rock
Posted: Sun December 04, 2016 6:41 pm
I've been POOSSTTIiiEEnngeeaahh
Joined: Fri November 15, 2013 6:14 am Posts: 11136
Being that this particular event is a multi-layered socioeconomic and human rights issue, which includes the permit 12 federal overreach problem, shouldn't we be praising these people for bringing awareness to an issue that previously had almost none?
Post subject: Re: The DAPL and the standoff at Standing Rock
Posted: Sun December 04, 2016 6:50 pm
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14267
Kaius wrote:
Being that this particular event is a multi-layered socioeconomic and human rights issue, which includes the permit 12 federal overreach problem, shouldn't we be praising these people for bringing awareness to an issue that previously had almost none?
Maybe. It reeks of "activist tourism".
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Post subject: Re: The DAPL and the standoff at Standing Rock
Posted: Sun December 04, 2016 7:00 pm
I've been POOSSTTIiiEEnngeeaahh
Joined: Fri November 15, 2013 6:14 am Posts: 11136
I don't think it applies here. Several factors are not ideal for fair weather activists: in North Dakota, freezing temps, lack of modern amenities, dangerous police presence, low media coverage. There doesn't seem to be a lot of good reasons for the average joe to stop life and drive up there.
Post subject: Re: The DAPL and the standoff at Standing Rock
Posted: Sun December 04, 2016 10:09 pm
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14267
Cynicism aside, it's nice to see the good guys play fair and win.
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Post subject: Re: The DAPL and the standoff at Standing Rock
Posted: Mon December 05, 2016 1:14 am
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Joined: Fri November 15, 2013 6:14 am Posts: 11136
If anything, it created more awareness for leaky pipes everywhere. It's not like major media reports on every busted oil pipe or contaminated water source.
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