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Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 2:23 am Posts: 3645 Location: The In Between
They may very well do an overly praised album, Super Bowl appearance, and overpriced tour after they all hit 60, but what would you like to see from this band before they're all 60?
1) Reunion with Dave A. at Rock Hall induction. 2) An acoustic amphitheater tour - Gorge, Red Rocks, Alpine, etc. 3) Lost Dogs 2, especially if Cold Concession and Let It Ride are any indication of what they have. 4) An album without Brenden. 5) One show co headlining with Soundgarden, TOTD encore.
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daft twat wrote:
They may very well do an overly praised album, Super Bowl appearance, and overpriced tour after they all hit 60, but what would you like to see from this band before they're all 60?
1) Reunion with Dave A. at Rock Hall induction. 2) An acoustic amphitheater tour - Gorge, Red Rocks, Alpine, etc. 3) Lost Dogs 2, especially if Cold Concession and Let It Ride are any indication of what they have. 4) An album without Brenden. 5) One show co headlining with Soundgarden, TOTD encore.
4) An album without Brenden.
I don't give a shit about the nostalgia stuff any more. I just want another album that feels immediate and vital, that isn't overly fussed over, and that sounds like a band playing off of each other rather than a bunch of finished compositions backed by a session band.
I don't think they're capable of a great album anymore but, honestly, I don't think a standalone great album would be enough to affect me. It would be out on its own, not a part of any artistic narrative or moment, and Pearl Jam records don't have personality enough for that to be exciting. I'd honestly rather have a Springsteenesque period of creative resurgence that results in uneven and occasionally abnormal records than a single really good Pearl Jam record.
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daft twat wrote:
2) An acoustic amphitheater tour - Gorge, Red Rocks, Alpine, etc.
This would be really cool but only if it were a semi-acoustic thing like Benaroya, with Mike still playing electric. I don't think an all-acoustic Pearl Jam show would be very interesting
just want another album that feels immediate and vital, that isn't overly fussed over, and that sounds like a band playing off of each other rather than a bunch of finished compositions backed by a session band.
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 2:23 am Posts: 3645 Location: The In Between
LetMeSleep wrote:
Option 4. And I believe that option 3 is a given at some point regardless of them continuing as a band.
Sorry. I didn't mean this as options. Those are just 5 things I'd like to see that I think are realistic expectations.
By the acoustic tour, I absolutely meant like Benaroya. I'd like to see that kind of show once.
Sadly, I also don't think a great album is a possibility. The last three albums have enough good songs to keep me interested, but they seem to always favor the songs I dislike at shows.
For me the writing, as in whatever gets them the songwriting credit, is not even close to being the main issue. What bothers me is the compositions as a whole that sound as if all of them are in the front seat. It started with s/t. A song like Come Back begs for a stripped down arrangement that gives it an intimate atmosphere. What they seem to be going for is a take on the kitsch 80's aesthetic as much as they possibly can which doesn't really work on most of the songs. Restrained compositions were something that they did routinely from Vs. to Riot Act but are practically gone since S/t. What I'm trying to say is regardless of who is credited for the music they end up giving that kitsch sound to every song more or less.
#1 Never #2 A fan wish would be an impossible ticket. #3 We'll get this sooner or later. #4 I hope so. #5 For when they can only play for an hour or so.
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emanon wrote:
I think I either need to drink less to become more alert, or more so as not to care.
For me the writing, as in whatever gets them the songwriting credit, is not even close to being the main issue. What bothers me is the compositions as a whole that sound as if all of them are in the front seat. It started with s/t. A song like Come Back begs for a stripped down arrangement that gives it an intimate atmosphere. What they seem to be going for is a take on the kitsch 80's aesthetic as much as they possibly can which doesn't really work on most of the songs. Restrained compositions were something that they did routinely from Vs. to Riot Act but are practically gone since S/t. What I'm trying to say is regardless of who is credited for the music they end up giving that kitsch sound to every song more or less.
Okay, so you're saying the arrangements are too elaborate, too full, or too slick. That seems to be a pretty common criticism, what with all the talk of keys, strings, "lasers," etc.
I'd have to agree that their compositional style isn't really supportive of that approach, so a lot of times it feels like an analysis of elements of popular music was conducted, and then the results were applied to the newest Pearl Jam™ product.
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