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Post subject: Re: Where do you guys stand on Snowden
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:38 pm
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Dev wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Snowden is a pussy. Fuck him.
woah
I have very strong opinions about leaking classified information, even if the info is not something you agree with.
Can you imagine any situation where classified information should be leaked to the public?
Listen, on a singular level, sure there are things that are effed up and maybe should not happen. But most classified info has layers to it, and messing with one layer can screw up layers that someone like Snowden may not be aware of or have the clearance to know about. I've seen first hand how someone drinking and running their mouth the night before seriously jeopardized the safety of others the following day. So no, I really can't. I'm not saying if I knew about a catastrophic viral outbreak I wouldn't leak it, but on day to day stuff, you can't mess around with something because it made you butthurt.
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Post subject: Re: Where do you guys stand on Snowden
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:40 pm
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Dev wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Snowden is a pussy. Fuck him.
woah
I have very strong opinions about leaking classified information, even if the info is not something you agree with.
Can you imagine any situation where classified information should be leaked to the public?
Listen, on a singular level, sure there are things that are effed up and maybe should not happen. But most classified info has layers to it, and messing with one layer can screw up layers that someone like Snowden may not be aware of or have the clearance to know about. I've seen first hand how someone drinking and running their mouth the night before seriously jeopardized the safety of others the following day. So no, I really can't. I'm not saying if I knew about a catastrophic viral outbreak I wouldn't leak it, but on day to day stuff, you can't mess around with something because it made you butthurt.
I see what you're saying, and you definitely have a point. But I also think it's a little disingenuous to characterize the moral objection to wholesale spying on the American public or the illegal war in Cambodia as simply being butthurt.
Post subject: Re: Where do you guys stand on Snowden
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:46 pm
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Dev wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Snowden is a pussy. Fuck him.
woah
I have very strong opinions about leaking classified information, even if the info is not something you agree with.
Can you imagine any situation where classified information should be leaked to the public?
Listen, on a singular level, sure there are things that are effed up and maybe should not happen. But most classified info has layers to it, and messing with one layer can screw up layers that someone like Snowden may not be aware of or have the clearance to know about. I've seen first hand how someone drinking and running their mouth the night before seriously jeopardized the safety of others the following day. So no, I really can't. I'm not saying if I knew about a catastrophic viral outbreak I wouldn't leak it, but on day to day stuff, you can't mess around with something because it made you butthurt.
I see what you're saying, and you definitely have a point. But I also think it's a little disingenuous to characterize the moral objection to wholesale spying on the American public or the illegal war in Cambodia as simply being butthurt.
Yes, poor choice of words by me. I'm not going to get into this because it is a rabbit-hole that I don't want to/can't really go down right now. But I've seen first hand the chain reaction that can happen with this type of thing, and I don't like it. Usually, the psych eval you have to go through for a high clearance weeds out these kinds of people, but I guess Snowden slipped through.
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Post subject: Re: Where do you guys stand on Snowden
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:51 pm
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And I know this all makes me sound very right wing, but I guess I took the responsibility very seriously and was very aware of what I was getting into. I guess my brainwashing by the military machine worked a little on me. *shrugs*
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Post subject: Re: Where do you guys stand on Snowden
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:54 pm
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I'm not judging you. I have a great amount of respect for you and what you've done and because of your experience I think your opinion on this matter carries some weight, even if I disagree with it.
Post subject: Re: Where do you guys stand on Snowden
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 6:06 pm
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
I'm not judging you. I have a great amount of respect for you and what you've done and because of your experience I think your opinion on this matter carries some weight, even if I disagree with it.
Didn't I call in to WBZ and talk about this topic (not Snowden specifically) with Jordan one time?
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Post subject: Re: Where do you guys stand on Snowden
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 6:52 pm
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
I'm not judging you. I have a great amount of respect for you and what you've done and because of your experience I think your opinion on this matter carries some weight, even if I disagree with it.
Didn't I call in to WBZ and talk about this topic (not Snowden specifically) with Jordan one time?
Post subject: Re: Where do you guys stand on Snowden
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 9:37 pm
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dimejinky99 wrote:
Just wondering
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