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Post subject: Re: Burger patties. Share your recipes.
Posted: Fri February 05, 2016 8:09 pm
The Master
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theplatypus wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
NEVER press them down on the grill/griddle. That's an amateur move.
I just meant the initial press, yanno? When you're laying 'em down.
I'm skeptical of this "initial press." Do you mean you go for a flat patty? A flat patty is a bad patty, because A) you're pressing all the juice/flavor out of the meat, and B) by making a more dense burger, you have to overcook the outer part to get the center to ideal temp. A loose fist-shaped ball is best, because you retain the juice and get a more even cook on your meat.
Post subject: Re: Burger patties. Share your recipes.
Posted: Fri February 05, 2016 8:16 pm
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tragabigzanda wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
NEVER press them down on the grill/griddle. That's an amateur move.
I just meant the initial press, yanno? When you're laying 'em down.
I'm skeptical of this "initial press." Do you mean you go for a flat patty? A flat patty is a bad patty, because A) you're pressing all the juice/flavor out of the meat, and B) by making a more dense burger, you have to overcook the outer part to get the center to ideal temp. A loose fist-shaped ball is best, because you retain the juice and get a more even cook on your meat.
Completely flat? Of course not. I make them into a ball like you describe, and then when I lay them on the grill I press down lightly just to make them slightly flatter. No juice escapes the patty at this point, and I never press on them again as they're cooking.
Post subject: Re: Burger patties. Share your recipes.
Posted: Fri February 05, 2016 8:20 pm
The Master
Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm Posts: 46420 Location: In the oatmeal aisle wearing a Shellac shirt
theplatypus wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
NEVER press them down on the grill/griddle. That's an amateur move.
I just meant the initial press, yanno? When you're laying 'em down.
I'm skeptical of this "initial press." Do you mean you go for a flat patty? A flat patty is a bad patty, because A) you're pressing all the juice/flavor out of the meat, and B) by making a more dense burger, you have to overcook the outer part to get the center to ideal temp. A loose fist-shaped ball is best, because you retain the juice and get a more even cook on your meat.
Completely flat? Of course not. I make them into a ball like you describe, and then when I lay them on the grill I press down lightly just to make them slightly flatter. No juice escapes the patty at this point, and I never press on them again as they're cooking.
Sounds like you're basically doing the same thing as the thumbprint that I do. I was taught the thumbprint is better than a full-press, because it makes the burger retain it's shape without putting undue pressure on the rest of the meat...But ours are probably similar.
I used to try all sorts of added junk: egg, bread crumbs, peppers and onions. But I've learned that primo meat with minimal prep is best, then you can dress it up however you want.
Post subject: Re: Burger patties. Share your recipes.
Posted: Fri February 05, 2016 8:29 pm
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Nice. I will try the thumbprint thing next time.
This thread idea came from watching a Gordon Ramsay video where he put a bunch of stuff (onions, Worcestershire sauce, dijon mustard, a bunch of other things) into the meat and wondering if I was missing out.
Post subject: Re: Burger patties. Share your recipes.
Posted: Fri February 05, 2016 8:41 pm
The Master
Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm Posts: 46420 Location: In the oatmeal aisle wearing a Shellac shirt
theplatypus wrote:
Nice. I will try the thumbprint thing next time.
This thread idea came from watching a Gordon Ramsay video where he put a bunch of stuff (onions, Worcestershire sauce, dijon mustard, a bunch of other things) into the meat and wondering if I was missing out.
Post subject: Re: Burger patties. Share your recipes.
Posted: Fri February 05, 2016 8:49 pm
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I always use at least 20% fat..usually just salt..every so often I will put in some worcestershire...there is a local butcher I go to sometimes that makes a good 73/27 blend
Post subject: Re: Burger patties. Share your recipes.
Posted: Fri February 05, 2016 9:50 pm
The Master
Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm Posts: 46420 Location: In the oatmeal aisle wearing a Shellac shirt
doug rr wrote:
I always use at least 20% fat..usually just salt..every so often I will put in some worcestershire...there is a local butcher I go to sometimes that makes a good 73/27 blend
It's difficult to even find a pre-made burger blend with more than 15%. I really need to buy my own meat grinder...
Post subject: Re: Burger patties. Share your recipes.
Posted: Fri February 05, 2016 9:52 pm
The Master
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tragabigzanda wrote:
doug rr wrote:
I always use at least 20% fat..usually just salt..every so often I will put in some worcestershire...there is a local butcher I go to sometimes that makes a good 73/27 blend
It's difficult to even find a pre-made burger blend with more than 15%. I really need to buy my own meat grinder...
Post subject: Re: Burger patties. Share your recipes.
Posted: Fri February 05, 2016 9:55 pm
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tragabigzanda wrote:
doug rr wrote:
I always use at least 20% fat..usually just salt..every so often I will put in some worcestershire...there is a local butcher I go to sometimes that makes a good 73/27 blend
It's difficult to even find a pre-made burger blend with more than 15%. I really need to buy my own meat grinder...
Huh? All I ever see anymore is 80/20
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Post subject: Re: Burger patties. Share your recipes.
Posted: Fri February 05, 2016 10:05 pm
The Master
Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm Posts: 46420 Location: In the oatmeal aisle wearing a Shellac shirt
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
doug rr wrote:
I always use at least 20% fat..usually just salt..every so often I will put in some worcestershire...there is a local butcher I go to sometimes that makes a good 73/27 blend
It's difficult to even find a pre-made burger blend with more than 15%. I really need to buy my own meat grinder...
have you ever made a hamburger ice cream?
Gross, Lenny! But I am making key lime pie, banana pudding, and chocolate ice cream for a little get-together this evening. If you leave now we'll save you some.
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
doug rr wrote:
I always use at least 20% fat..usually just salt..every so often I will put in some worcestershire...there is a local butcher I go to sometimes that makes a good 73/27 blend
It's difficult to even find a pre-made burger blend with more than 15%. I really need to buy my own meat grinder...
Huh? All I ever see anymore is 80/20
Man, all I ever see is 85/15. Only way I can find 20% is if I ask a butcher to grind it for me, and there are no proper butchers where I live, so I'd rather buy the 85/15 pre-made grass fed stuff rather than have the supermarket make me 80/20 of grainfed meat.
Post subject: Re: Burger patties. Share your recipes.
Posted: Sat February 06, 2016 6:45 pm
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salt leaches juice out of the meat as it cooks, I never use salt until it's done.
I usually settle for spicy A-1 sauce in the hamburger meat and slap it on the grill, but I've used some 'off the internet' type spice mixtures that worked nicely too.
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