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Post subject: Re: Entire genres that only need one thread: Vaporwave
Posted: Thu January 07, 2016 1:13 am
The Master
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Kaius wrote:
Give me the goods about vapor wave that I might plug into spotify and get glassy eyed to. I don't even know what this is, but based on some posts I've read I am expecting video game noise and 90s commercial clips.
Post subject: Re: Entire genres that only need one thread: Vaporwave
Posted: Thu January 07, 2016 1:20 am
The Master
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Kaius wrote:
Not on there. Who else?
Chuck Person Macintosh Plus
It's very possible few to no vapor artists will be on Spotify, though. It's all very DIY. You'll probably have more luck on YouTube. Fucking everything Vaporwave is on there.
Post subject: Re: Entire genres that only need one thread: Vaporwave
Posted: Thu January 07, 2016 1:24 am
tl;dr
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LV: Thanks for the thoughtful reply -- you make a lot of good points that I agree with, particularly about the way this music distorts nostalgic emotions. For what it's worth, my comment about it being boring conceptually was meant to refer back to that critic's suggestion that the music was a critique of capitalism, as though this would somehow be a real renegade move in the arts. I maintain that if that was the driving force behind the music, it would be extremely boring conceptually.
But where I think you hit the nail really on the head is where you say it's an art movement as much as a musical one, and this is where I get lost, and what I was getting at when describing the music as being too inseparable from its nonmusical ideologies for my tastes. I simply don't have the same capacity for processing conceptual art that I do for processing music -- it doesn't engage me the same way, and more often than not I feel like I am just completely blinded by multiple layers of irony and abstraction which I have no desire or even any real ability to dig through.
Ultimately, though, I don't have near the experience with this kind of music necessary to engage in this kind of dialogue about it, so I will have to leave it at that I dug what I heard but don't really see myself absorbing it into my repertoire of daily listening. I miss the element of identifying with the human artist at the heart of the work --- so few components of this feel like the artist really trying to convey something to me that's also meaningful to him. And suffice it to say nostalgia is not a hard emotion to come by elsewhere in my music collection.
Post subject: Re: Entire genres that only need one thread: Vaporwave
Posted: Thu February 25, 2016 2:38 am
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
its fucking devastating. I think it's my favorite The Shape track.
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
I've been going through his discography and thinking about inter-song and inter-album context, and it's really mind-boggling. Some individual songs contain multiple narratives (with multiple meanings) while creating one narrative, songs will talk to each other as they transition, then each album has its own larger narrative (which is both personal and social), and then there's one huge, ongoing narrative that plays out from album to album. There are so many layers - it's insane.
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
I've also come to realize more and more just how fucking heavy all of his post-Out of Body music is. It's deeply sad and tragic.
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
very likely his best song ever. I mean how the fuck do you argue with a beauty like that?
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
I don't wanna speak too soon but this is definitely the best album of all time
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
it's finally working and everything is glorious
this is a god dream
this is everything
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
I gotta say, I'm getting here already. Like, DWTD is actually ruining other music for me. The precision, the cohesion of elements, the introspection, the importance of every second. It's making other music feel trivial.
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