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Post subject: All-Time Franchise Baseball Tournament: RED SOX WIN IT ALL!
Posted: Fri September 26, 2014 9:08 pm
Commissioner
Joined: Wed March 13, 2013 12:48 am Posts: 11792
-Like the Post-Strike baseball tournament, all of these games will be simulated via whatifsports.com.
-Participants will pick the franchise they'd like to use. Once you pick your franchise, you can use any season that any player had playing for that franchise. Players who played for multiple franchises can be on multiple teams, but you can't use a season they had for another franchise (ex. Carlton Fisk can be on both the White Sox and Red Sox, but the White Sox can't use his 1975 season and the Red Sox can't use his 1983 season).
-You need twenty-five players to field a complete team.
-We will have a regular season before the tournament. Everyone will play everyone else four times, twice at home and twice on the road. There will be a home-and-home each game day. After everyone plays everyone else, the schedule repeats a second time.
-The playoffs will be best-of-seven series. We will use the same rules about pitching rotations/rest as we did in the Post-Strike tournament. You will have the option to start someone on two games' rest twice during the playoffs. You will have the option to do it four times during the regular season as well (where the same three games' rest rule applies). A pitcher CANNOT start on two games' rest in consecutive starts. He needs a full three games before he can start again after starting on short rest. Rotations will reset at the All-Star break and the start of the playoffs.
-The top six teams in the standings at the end of the season will make the playoffs. First and second place will receive byes into the semifinals. Tie-breakers for the second and sixth spots will be settled via play-in game. These games are considered part of the regular season, so pitchers in them are subjected to regular season rest restrictions. Tie-breakers for the other spots will be based on head-to-head record. If the teams split their meetings, the tie will be broken by whoever had the better record against the highest seeded team overall (this will carry down in the standings until the tie is broken).
2B – 1990 Ryne Sandberg (R) 3B – 1964 Ron Santo (R) RF – 2001 Sammy Sosa (R) SS – 1958 Ernie Banks (R) LF – 1972 Billy Williams (L) CF – 1930 Hack Wilson (R) 1B – 2005 Derek Lee (R) C – 1930 Gabby Hartnett (R) C – 1993 Rick Wilkins (L) 1B – 1886 Cap Anson (R) 1B – 1993 Mark Grace (L) 2B – 1936 Billy Herman (R) 3B – 2004 Aramis Ramirez (R) OF – 1930 Kiki Cuyler (R) OF – 1987 Andre Dawson (R)
SP – 1971 Ferguson Jenkins (R) SP – 1906 Mordecai Brown (R) SP – 1918 Hippo Vaughn (L) SP – 1992 Greg? Maddux (R) SP – 2003 Mark Prior (R) RP –1977 Bruce Sutter (R) RP – 1983 Lee Smith (R) RP – 1993 Randy Myers (L) RP – 1920 Pete Alexander (R) RP – 2003 Kerry Wood (R)
1954 Minnie Minoso RF/R 1920 Eddie Collins 2B/L 1994 Frank Thomas 1B/R 1920 Shoeless Joe Jackson CF/L 1998 Albert Belle LF/R 1936 Luke Appling SS/R 1920 Buck Weaver 3B/S 1959 Sherm Lollar C/R 1957 Nellie Fox 2B/L 1936 Zeke Bonura 1B/R 1926 Johnny Mostil OF/R 1972 Dick Allen 1B/R 1920 Happy Felsch OF/R 1933 Al Simmons OF/R
1908 Ed Walsh R 1909 Frank Smith R 1917 Ed Cicotte R 1922 Red Faber R 1916 Reb Russell L 1919 Dickie Kerr L 1910 Jim Scott R 1981 Dennis Lamp R 1965 Hoyt Wilhem R 1965 Eddie Fisher R 1960 Frank Baumann L
SS 1948 Lou Boudreau 3B 1953 Al Rosen 2B 1906 Nap Lajoie OF 1912 Shoeless Joe Jackson CF 1923 Tris Speaker RF 1993 Kenny Lofton 1B 2002 Jim Thome C 2005 Victor Martinez IF 1906 Terry Turner 3B 1971 Graig Nettles SS 1923 Joe Sewell OF 1999 Manny Ramirez CF 1952 Larry Doby LF 1995 Albert Belle C- 2014 Yan Gomes
1972 Gaylord Perry RHSP 1940 Bob Feller RHSP 1918 Stan Coveleski RHSP 1911 Vean Gregg LHSP 1968 Luis Tiant RHSP 1995 Jose Mesa RHRP 1998 Micheal Jackson RHRP 1988 Doug Jones RHRP 1957 Ray Narleski RHRP 1979 Sid Monge LHRP
C Alan Ashby(1987) 1B Jeff Bagwell(1994) 2B Joe Morgan(1965) 3B Ken Caminiti(1989) SS Dickie Thon(1983) LF Cesar Cedeno(1972) CF Craig Biggio(1997) RF Carlos Beltran(2004) B Brad Ausmus(1997) B Doug Rader(1970) B Jeff Kent(2004) B Lance Berkman(2008) B Jose Cruz(1984)
SP Mike Scott(1986) SP Larry Dierker(1969) SP Roger Clemens(2005) SP Mike Hampton(1999) SP Nolan Ryan(1987) BP Billy Wagner(1999) BP Dave Smith(1987) BP Joe Sambito(1979) BP Brad Lidge(2004) BP Jose Valverde (2008) BP Joe Niekro(1982) BP Fred Gladding (1971)
C- Darrell Porter 1979 1B- Mike Sweeny 2000 2B- Frank White 1986 SS- Jay Bell 1997 3B- George Brett 1980 LF- Alex Gordon 2011 CF- Amos Otis 1978 RF- Carlos Beltran 2001 OF- Bo Jackson 1990 OF- Hal McRae 1982 OF- Willie Wilson 1980 IF- Kevin Seitzer 1987 IF- Jose Offerman 1998
Rotation P- Bret Saberhagen 1989 P- Zack Greinke 2009 P- Kevin Appier 1993 P- David Cone 1994
Other Pitchers P- Jeremy Affeldt 2003 P- Wade Davis 2014 (If I can't use him if it's too soon Bud Black 1986) P- Steve Farr 1990 P- Jeff Montgomery 1989 P- Tom fucking Gordon 1989 (one of my all time favorites) P- Joakim Soria 2010 P- Dan Quisenberry 1983 (finished in the top 5 of the Cy voting five times and finished 2nd twice....good lord he's underrated)
C: Gary Carter (R) 1982 1B: Andres Galarraga (R) 1988 2B: Jose Vidro (S) 2000 3B: Tim Wallach (R) 1987 SS: Hubie Brooks (R) 1986 OF: Andre Dawson (R) 1983 OF: Tim Raines (S) 1986 OF: Vladimir Guerrero (R) 2000
SP: Pedro Martinez (R) 1997 SP: Jeff Fassero (L) 1993 SP: Steve Rogers (R) 1982 SP: Dennis Martinez (R) 1992 SP: Javier Vazquez (R) 2003
RP: John Wetteland (R) 1993 RP: Jeff Reardon (R) 1982 RP: Ugueth Urbina (R) 1998 RP: Woodie Fryman (L) 1980 RP: Tim Burke (R) 1989
OF: Larry Walker (L) 1994 OF: Rusty Staub (L) 1969 3B: Larry Parrish (R) 1979 1B: Al Oliver (L) 1982 2B: Ron Hunt (R) 1971 OF: Ken Singleton (S) 1973 OF: Warren Cromartie (L) 1978
C 1998 Jason Kendall R 1B 1972 Willie Stargell L 2B 1930 George Grantham L 3B 1930 Pie Traynor R SS 1935 Arky Vaughan L OF 1999 Brian Giles L OF 1992 Barry Bonds L OF 1947 Ralph Kiner R SS 1908 Honus Wagner R OF 2012 Andrew McCutchen R OF 1967 Roberto Clemente R OF 1978 Dave Parker L 2B 1966 Bill Mazeroski R C 1971 Manny Sanguillen R 3B 1982 Bill Madlock R
SP 1960 Vern Law R SP/RP 1964 Bob Veale L SP/RP 1963 Bob Friend R SP/RP 1990 Doug Drabek R SP/RP 1977 John Candelaria L SP/RP 1977 Rich Gossage R SP/RP 1968 Steve Blass R SP/RP 1979 Kent Tekulve R SP/RP 1960 Roy Face R SP/RP 1982 Rod Scurry L
C 2012 Yadier Molina - R 1B 2008 Albert Pujols - R 2B 1924 Rogers Hornsby - R 3B 1971 Joe Torre - R SS 1987 Ozzie Smith - S OF 1948 Stan Musial - L OF 1887 Tip O'Neill - R OF 1937 Joe Medwick - R 1B 1998 Mark McGwire - R 2B 1927 Frankie Frisch - S 1B 1939 Johnny Mize - L OF 2004 Jim Edmonds - L 1B 1979 Keith Hernandez - L OF 1985 Willie McGee - S OF 1949 Enos Slaughter - L 3B 1961 Ken Boyer - R
1968 Bob Gibson - R 1888 Silver King - R 1942 Mort Cooper - R 1985 John Tudor - L 1934 Dizzy Dean - R 1885 Bob Caruthers - R 2010 Adam Wainwright - R 1888 Elton Chamberlain - S 1984 Bruce Sutter - R
C-Pudge Rodriguez 2000 1B- Will Clark 1994 2B- Julio Franco 1991 SS- Michael Young 2005 3B- Adrian Beltre 2012 LF- Rusty Greer 1996 CF- Josh Hmailton 2010 RF- Juan Gonzalez 1998 OF- Ruben Sierra 1989 C/1B- Mike Napoli 2011 2B- Mark McLemore 1996 UTL- Frank Catalanotto 2001 SS- Elvis Andrus 2011 OF- Gabe Kapler 2000
SP- Fergie Jenkins 1974 R SP- Gaylord Perry 1976 R SP- Nolan Ryan 1989 R SP- Yu Darvish 2013 R P- Sparky Lyle 1979 P- Jim Kern 1979 P- Mitch Williams 1987 P- John Wetteland 1997 P- Jeff Zimmerman 2001 P- Francisco Cordero 2004 P- Derek Holland 2010 P- Neftali Feliz 2010
2B - 1993 Roberto Alomar (S) LF - 2011 Jose Bautista (R) 1B - 1993 John Olerud (L) RF - 1986 Jesse Barfield (R) CF - 1984 Lloyd Moseby (L) SS - 1987 Tony Fernandez (S) 3B - 1988 Kelly Gruber (R) C - 1983 Ernie Whitt (L) C/WSMVP - 1990 Pat Borders (R) 1B - 2000 Carlos Delgado (L) 1B/WSMVP - 1993 Paul Molitor (R) OF - 1987 George Bell (R) OF - 1991 Devon White (S) SS - 2009 Marco Scutaro (R)
SP - 2009 Roy Halladay (R) SP - 1997 Roger Clemens (R) SP - 1984 Dave Stieb (R) SP - 1996 Pat Hentgen (R) SP - 1987 Jimmy Key (L) RP - 2000 David Wells (L) RP - 1992 Juan Guzman (R) RP - 1991 Duane Ward (R) RP - 1989 Tom Henke (R) RP - 2006 B.J. Ryan (L) RP - 1986 Mark Eichhorn (R)
SCHEDULE
Everyone plays their opponent twice each day, once at home and once on the road.
Post subject: Re: All-Time Franchise Baseball Tournament: SIGN UP!
Posted: Fri September 26, 2014 9:20 pm
Commissioner
Joined: Wed March 13, 2013 12:48 am Posts: 11792
Would you guys mind reposting your rosters in this thread? That might help give people who weren't in the last tournament an idea of what we're doing, in case anyone else is interested.
Lineup vs. RHP 2B - 1993 Roberto Alomar (S) LF - 2011 Jose Bautista (R) 1B - 1993 John Olerud (L) RF - 1986 Jesse Barfield (R) CF - 1984 Lloyd Moseby (L) SS - 1987 Tony Fernandez (S) 3B - 1988 Kelly Gruber (R) C - 1983 Ernie Whitt (L)
Bench C/WSMVP - 1990 Pat Borders (R) 1B - 2000 Carlos Delgado (L) 1B/WSMVP - 1993 Paul Molitor (R) OF - 1987 George Bell (R) OF - 1991 Devon White (S) SS - 2009 Marco Scutaro (R)
Lineup vs. LHP 2B - 1993 Roberto Alomar (S) LF - 2011 Jose Bautista (R) 1B - 1993 Paul Molitor (R) RF - 1986 Jesse Barfield (R) SS - 1987 Tony Fernandez (S) 3B - 1988 Kelly Gruber (R) CF - 1991 Devon White (S) C - 1990 Pat Borders (R)
Rotation SP - 2009 Roy Halladay (R) SP - 1997 Roger Clemens (R) SP - 1984 Dave Stieb (R) SP - 1996 Pat Hentgen (R) SP - 1987 Jimmy Key (L)
Bullpen RP - 2000 David Wells (L) RP - 1992 Juan Guzman (R) RP - 1991 Duane Ward (R) RP - 1989 Tom Henke (R) RP - 2006 B.J. Ryan (L) RP - 1986 Mark Eichhorn (R)
CF- 1911 Ty Cobb (L) LF- 1923 Harry Heilman (R) RF- 1961 Al Kaline (R) 1B- 1961 Norm Cash (L) 2B- 1934 Charlie Gehringer (L) SS- 1987 Alan Trammell (R) 3B- 2011 Miguel Cabrera (R) C- 1968 Bill Freehan (R)
BENCH LF/1B- 1937 Hank Greenberg (R) RF- 1961 Rocky Colavito (R) CF- 2011 Curtis Granderson (L) 2B- 1983 Lou Whitaker (L) C- 2011 Alex Avila (S) SS- 2006 Carlos Guillen (S) 1B- 1991 Cecil Fielder (R) OR 2014 Victor Martinez (S) if he's eligible by the time we start this.
CF- 1911 Ty Cobb LF- 1923 Harry Heilman 3B- 2011 Miguel Cabrera 1B- 1937 Hank Greenburg RF- 1961 Al Kaline 2B- 1934 Charlie Gehringer SS- 1987 Alan Trammell C- 1968 Bill Freehan
Against RHP
CF- 1911 Ty Cobb 2B- 1934 Charlie Gehringer RF- 1961 Al Kaline 3B- 2011 Miguel Cabrera 1B- 1961 Norm Cash LF- 1923 Harry Heilman SS- 1987 Alan Trammell C- 2011 Alex Avila
4 Man Rotation SP- 1945 Hal Newhouser (L) SP- 2011 Justin Verlander (R) SP- 1971 Mickey Lolich (L) SP- 1976 Mark Fidrych (R)
I also Included Righty/Lefty since a lot of us might not know at first glance with some of the older guys which they were.
Post subject: Re: All-Time Franchise Baseball Tournament: SIGN UP!
Posted: Fri September 26, 2014 9:32 pm
Commissioner
Joined: Wed March 13, 2013 12:48 am Posts: 11792
It looks like last year they added all of the 2013 seasons to the database around October 3rd. Assuming they do the same this year, 2014 seasons should be usable since I don't think we'll be starting the regular season till after then.
Post subject: Re: All-Time Franchise Baseball Tournament: SIGN UP!
Posted: Fri September 26, 2014 9:40 pm
Commissioner
Joined: Wed March 13, 2013 12:48 am Posts: 11792
Yeah, you just have to be prepared for the simulator to hold it against you. It worked well in some cases, but in others (Craig Biggio) it was a disaster.
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