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 Post subject: Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Vitalogy
PostPosted: Fri January 24, 2014 2:25 pm 
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I do normally stop the album after vitalogy. Stupid mop is like a bad final scene tacked onto a directors cut

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Nevertheless, you stop listening before the album ends.

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Pearl Jam fans.

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Pretty sure 4 out of the 5 band members think Vitalogy ended with Immortality too.


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Dave and Stone hated it. Mike said he liked it but was lying. Jeff thinks he likes it but deep down he knows it's shit. Eddie doesn't remember it.


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bada wrote:
Dave and Stone hated it. Mike said he liked it but was lying. Jeff thinks he likes it but deep down he knows it's shit. Eddie doesn't remember it.

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Do you consider yield closing with ATY or hummus? Is master/slave the end of ten, or is it release?


What chud said...there is a huge gap between ATY and Hummus, so Yield ends with ATY and Hummus is a bad ass hidden track. Stupid Mop, if Ed insisted it be on the album, should have also been a hidden track.


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bada wrote:
Pretty sure 4 out of the 5 band members think Vitalogy ended with Immortality too.


From the band that gave you Sirens.

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stip wrote:
Do you consider yield closing with ATY or hummus? Is master/slave the end of ten, or is it release?


What chud said...there is a huge gap between ATY and Hummus, so Yield ends with ATY and Hummus is a bad ass hidden track. Stupid Mop, if Ed insisted it be on the album, should have also been a hidden track.

Agreed. That would be better

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McParadigm wrote:
bada wrote:
Pretty sure 4 out of the 5 band members think Vitalogy ended with Immortality too.


From the band that gave you Sirens.


Sirens is better than Inside Job and most of Backspacer.


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McParadigm wrote:
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Pretty sure 4 out of the 5 band members think Vitalogy ended with Immortality too.


From the band that gave you Sirens.

What is in the water on planet mcparadigm?

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stip wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
bada wrote:
Pretty sure 4 out of the 5 band members think Vitalogy ended with Immortality too.


From the band that gave you Sirens.

What is in the water on planet mcparadigm?


Fish.

And they swim around all day long, and pop out of the water to say things like "I like this," "I liked this better from the 1994 Atlanta show," "this song frustrates me," and they never say anything else.

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McParadigm wrote:
bada wrote:
Pretty sure 4 out of the 5 band members think Vitalogy ended with Immortality too.


From the band that gave you Sirens.


3 out of 5 band members hate Sirens.

Stone, Jeff and Ed hate it. Mike loves it. Matt doesn't care a paycheck is a paycheck.


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McParadigm wrote:
stip wrote:
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Pretty sure 4 out of the 5 band members think Vitalogy ended with Immortality too.


From the band that gave you Sirens.

What is in the water on planet mcparadigm?


Fish.

And they swim around all day long, and pop out of the water to say things like "I like this," "I liked this better from the 1994 Atlanta show," "this song frustrates me," and they never say anything else.


what else is there to say, really? Silence in the absence of substance is wisdom of a sort.

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stip wrote:
Silence in the absence of substance is wisdom of a sort.


I suppose.

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Satan's Bed The album version will forever languish in the shadow of the cleaner Atlanta 94 version (which I heard first and remains definitive for me), but it's still a monster song nevertheless.

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It's a good thing the fish took the time to say that. There is also wisdom in saying true things.

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 Post subject: Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Vitalogy
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The Vitalogy listening experience:

Vitalogy: Last Exit, Spin the Black Circle, Not For You, Tremor Christ, Nothingman, Whipping, Pry to, Corduroy, Bugs, Satan’s Bed, Better Man, Aye Davanita, Immortality, Stupid Mop

B-sides: Hard to Imagine (Lost Dogs), Better Man organ/guitar (Vitalogy expanded), Falling Down (10C single), Out of My Mind (Not For You single), History Never Repeats (10C single), Nothingman demo (Vitalogy expanded)

Live at the Orpheum Theatre, Boston 4/12/94 (partial show because it’s restricted on Spotify): Oceans, Sonic Reducer, Not For You, Rats, Release, Tremor Christ, Once, Rearviewmirror

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The album itself is another level of mastery. I mean, I love Ten and Vs., but this takes it to the next level for me. The band, and especially Eddie, are just living in such an uncomfortable space and not hiding it in the least. That this bears out in the music is a moment I can relate to, even if I am not the one put on a pedestal for the purpose of being knocked off it. The music here emotes, Last Exit’s music yearning to be freed, Tremor Christ in its topsy turvy groove that makes you almost feel like you are battling for your balance on a boat being tossed around in waves, the desperation in Whipping that feels like you are in a crowd and can’t escape the tide of humanity despite the desperation - the force of one’s will just not being enough to get out. The manic annoyance and near itchiness accompanying Bugs, the false anthem in the chorus of Satan’s Bed, the psychotic breaks, and whimsical defiance mixed in with character driven balladry. It’s meant to make you feel the discomfort the band does. It’s genius.

The b-sides: so they definitely made the right decisions on takes here, since each of the alternate takes don’t measure up to the final product. Out of My Mind and Falling Down are improvs that are oh so close to being completed songs on the fly, and good ones at that. Hard to Imagine is great, though my memory from maybe the Chicago Cab soundtrack is the guitars come in heavier on the final chorus build. That album though…


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excellent descriptions.

Pearl Jam's best album

Maybe the greatest rock album of all time

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liebzz wrote:
The album itself is another level of mastery. I mean, I love Ten and Vs., but this takes it to the next level for me. The band, and especially Eddie, are just living in such an uncomfortable space and not hiding it in the least. That this bears out in the music is a moment I can relate to, even if I am not the one put on a pedestal for the purpose of being knocked off it. The music here emotes, Last Exit’s music yearning to be freed, Tremor Christ in its topsy turvy groove that makes you almost feel like you are battling for your balance on a boat being tossed around in waves, the desperation in Whipping that feels like you are in a crowd and can’t escape the tide of humanity despite the desperation - the force of one’s will just not being enough to get out. The manic annoyance and near itchiness accompanying Bugs, the false anthem in the chorus of Satan’s Bed, the psychotic breaks, and whimsical defiance mixed in with character driven balladry. It’s meant to make you feel the discomfort the band does. It’s genius.

The b-sides: so they definitely made the right decisions on takes here, since each of the alternate takes don’t measure up to the final product. Out of My Mind and Falling Down are improvs that are oh so close to being completed songs on the fly, and good ones at that. Hard to Imagine is great, though my memory from maybe the Chicago Cab soundtrack is the guitars come in heavier on the final chorus build. That album though…

Vitalogy is definitely not an album I just randomly toss on like "eh, it's been a while" I will be in the right headspace to take this exact voyage with the band and "Let's go!" goddamn, it never gets old.

Great sentiment liebzz, 100%.

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