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Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Fri October 02, 2020 6:50 pm
Troglodyte
Joined: Wed December 19, 2012 9:53 pm Posts: 22485 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
I can't imagine this will be long lived, but after the Sandia Labs kerfuffle, it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.
Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types...
"it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.
Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types ... " - Men, when they started Sexual Harassment trainings.
CRT trainings where you segregate employees by race is not exactly the same thing as sexual harassment training.
Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Fri October 02, 2020 7:18 pm
Misplaced My Sponge
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am Posts: 5584
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
I can't imagine this will be long lived, but after the Sandia Labs kerfuffle, it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.
Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types...
"it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.
Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types ... " - Men, when they started Sexual Harassment trainings.
CRT trainings where you segregate employees by race is not exactly the same thing as sexual harassment training.
But I'm not sure why anyone would be broken into race groups. Sounds like a "hire new trainers" situation.
Its entirely consistent with CRT and is what occured at Sandia Labs (allegedly). To have BIPOC individuals listen to their white colleagues "do the work" is emotional labor. Its taxing and unfair to them.
Hence breaking the group into ethnically based struggle sessions:
Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Fri October 02, 2020 7:26 pm
Troglodyte
Joined: Wed December 19, 2012 9:53 pm Posts: 22485 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
I can't imagine this will be long lived, but after the Sandia Labs kerfuffle, it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.
Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types...
"it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.
Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types ... " - Men, when they started Sexual Harassment trainings.
CRT trainings where you segregate employees by race is not exactly the same thing as sexual harassment training.
But I'm not sure why anyone would be broken into race groups. Sounds like a "hire new trainers" situation.
Its entirely consistent with CRT and is what occured at Sandia Labs (allegedly). To have BIPOC individuals listen to their white colleagues "do the work" is emotional labor. Its taxing and unfair to them.
Hence breaking the group into ethnically based struggle sessions:
OK, so I've heard that. But again, Trump didn't replace this with a different theory of diversity or sensitivity training. He just cancelled everything.
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Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Fri October 02, 2020 7:43 pm
Misplaced My Sponge
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am Posts: 5584
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
I can't imagine this will be long lived, but after the Sandia Labs kerfuffle, it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.
Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types...
"it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.
Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types ... " - Men, when they started Sexual Harassment trainings.
CRT trainings where you segregate employees by race is not exactly the same thing as sexual harassment training.
But I'm not sure why anyone would be broken into race groups. Sounds like a "hire new trainers" situation.
Its entirely consistent with CRT and is what occured at Sandia Labs (allegedly). To have BIPOC individuals listen to their white colleagues "do the work" is emotional labor. Its taxing and unfair to them.
Hence breaking the group into ethnically based struggle sessions:
OK, so I've heard that. But again, Trump didn't replace this with a different theory of diversity or sensitivity training. He just cancelled everything.
What are these trainings supposed to accomplish? Implicit Bias training tends to make things worse. If your workplace needs diversity or sensitivity training, it sounds like someone already should have been fired.
Should it just be rattling off a list of protected classes? Explain who you can be a dick to without getting fired or causing liability for your employer?
I'm 99 percent certain whatever the argument for why CRT training is valuable will end up being some Motte and Bailey BS about what the simplistic, high minded "just be considerate" version of CRT as opposed to what it IS.
Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Fri October 02, 2020 9:25 pm
mXn
Joined: Thu January 24, 2013 4:32 am Posts: 20842 Location: Surrounded by Wokes. Please send help.
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
I can't imagine this will be long lived, but after the Sandia Labs kerfuffle, it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.
Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types...
"it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.
Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types ... " - Men, when they started Sexual Harassment trainings.
CRT trainings where you segregate employees by race is not exactly the same thing as sexual harassment training.
But I'm not sure why anyone would be broken into race groups. Sounds like a "hire new trainers" situation.
Its entirely consistent with CRT and is what occured at Sandia Labs (allegedly). To have BIPOC individuals listen to their white colleagues "do the work" is emotional labor. Its taxing and unfair to them.
Hence breaking the group into ethnically based struggle sessions:
OK, so I've heard that. But again, Trump didn't replace this with a different theory of diversity or sensitivity training. He just cancelled everything.
What are these trainings supposed to accomplish? Implicit Bias training tends to make things worse. If your workplace needs diversity or sensitivity training, it sounds like someone already should have been fired.
Should it just be rattling off a list of protected classes? Explain who you can be a dick to without getting fired or causing liability for your employer?
I'm 99 percent certain whatever the argument for why CRT training is valuable will end up being some Motte and Bailey BS about what the simplistic, high minded "just be considerate" version of CRT as opposed to what it IS.
Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Fri October 02, 2020 11:01 pm
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Bammer wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
I can't imagine this will be long lived, but after the Sandia Labs kerfuffle, it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.
Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types...
"it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.
Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types ... " - Men, when they started Sexual Harassment trainings.
CRT trainings where you segregate employees by race is not exactly the same thing as sexual harassment training.
But I'm not sure why anyone would be broken into race groups. Sounds like a "hire new trainers" situation.
Its entirely consistent with CRT and is what occured at Sandia Labs (allegedly). To have BIPOC individuals listen to their white colleagues "do the work" is emotional labor. Its taxing and unfair to them.
Hence breaking the group into ethnically based struggle sessions:
OK, so I've heard that. But again, Trump didn't replace this with a different theory of diversity or sensitivity training. He just cancelled everything.
What are these trainings supposed to accomplish? Implicit Bias training tends to make things worse. If your workplace needs diversity or sensitivity training, it sounds like someone already should have been fired.
Should it just be rattling off a list of protected classes? Explain who you can be a dick to without getting fired or causing liability for your employer?
I'm 99 percent certain whatever the argument for why CRT training is valuable will end up being some Motte and Bailey BS about what the simplistic, high minded "just be considerate" version of CRT as opposed to what it IS.
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Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Thu February 11, 2021 5:01 am
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took me a while to understand that ‘equity analyst’ was not referring to stonks
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Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Thu February 11, 2021 1:07 pm
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14210
96583UP wrote:
took me a while to understand that ‘equity analyst’ was not referring to stonks
We were raised on the idea that you treat everyone equally, which is now a sin:
Quote:
The terms equality and equity are often used interchangeably; however, they differ in important ways. Equality is typically defined as treating everyone the same and giving everyone access to the same opportunities. Meanwhile, equity refers to proportional representation (by race, class, gender, etc.) in those same opportunities. To achieve equity, policies and procedures may result in an unequal distribution of resources.
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Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Thu February 11, 2021 11:57 pm
Mind Your Tanners
Joined: Thu January 10, 2013 2:19 am Posts: 8891 Location: SOUTH PORTLAND
Bi_3 wrote:
96583UP wrote:
took me a while to understand that ‘equity analyst’ was not referring to stonks
We were raised on the idea that you treat everyone equally, which is now a sin:
Quote:
The terms equality and equity are often used interchangeably; however, they differ in important ways. Equality is typically defined as treating everyone the same and giving everyone access to the same opportunities. Meanwhile, equity refers to proportional representation (by race, class, gender, etc.) in those same opportunities. To achieve equity, policies and procedures may result in an unequal distribution of resources.
with stimulus checks they could afford to be inside the park.
Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Thu March 04, 2021 9:10 pm
mXn
Joined: Thu January 24, 2013 4:32 am Posts: 20842 Location: Surrounded by Wokes. Please send help.
I am posting from a table at the teriyaki place where I am eating lunch.
Customer just said this to the guy working the counter: “When I was growing up when we went out for Chinese food my sister always wanted to bring food from McDonalds and eat that instead. I was wondering when Chinese people eat at a steakhouse or something do the little kids ask to bring noodles “
Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Thu March 04, 2021 9:12 pm
Guys, I am not a moderator! I swear to God! Why does everyone think I'm a moderator?
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Bammer wrote:
I am posting from a table at the teriyaki place where I am eating lunch.
Customer just said this to the guy working the counter: “When I was growing up when we went out for Chinese food my sister always wanted to bring food from McDonalds and eat that instead. I was wondering when Chinese people eat at a steakhouse or something do the little kids ask to bring noodles “
Wow.
I don't know what I'm more offended by, the general racial overtone or that he thought teriyaki was Chinese.
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Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Thu March 04, 2021 9:17 pm
mXn
Joined: Thu January 24, 2013 4:32 am Posts: 20842 Location: Surrounded by Wokes. Please send help.
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Bammer wrote:
I am posting from a table at the teriyaki place where I am eating lunch.
Customer just said this to the guy working the counter: “When I was growing up when we went out for Chinese food my sister always wanted to bring food from McDonalds and eat that instead. I was wondering when Chinese people eat at a steakhouse or something do the little kids ask to bring noodles “
Wow.
I don't know what I'm more offended by, the general racial overtone or that he thought teriyaki was Chinese.
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