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Post subject: Re: Mark Kozelek | Sun Kil Moon | Red House Painters
Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 6:19 pm
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I've a feeling kozelek doesn't give a shit about cancel culture. also, while it also strikes me as obvious behavior from him based on his personality, it sucks when someone whose art you enjoy winds up being a goddamn monster.
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Post subject: Re: Mark Kozelek | Sun Kil Moon | Red House Painters
Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 7:11 pm
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dad wrote:
I've a feeling kozelek doesn't give a shit about cancel culture. also, while it also strikes me as obvious behavior from him based on his personality, it sucks when someone whose art you enjoy winds up being a goddamn monster.
Yeah that's where I'm at--not at all surprised given the past six years, but on the other hand Ghosts of the Great Highway and Benji were big albums for me and they definitely feel tainted now. What a piece of shit.
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its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Post subject: Re: Mark Kozelek | Sun Kil Moon | Red House Painters
Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 10:25 pm
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Mickey wrote:
dad wrote:
I've a feeling kozelek doesn't give a shit about cancel culture. also, while it also strikes me as obvious behavior from him based on his personality, it sucks when someone whose art you enjoy winds up being a goddamn monster.
Yeah that's where I'm at--not at all surprised given the past six years, but on the other hand Ghosts of the Great Highway and Benji were big albums for me and they definitely feel tainted now. What a piece of shit.
Dont let an idiot ruin your fav music
As a huge Ryan Adams and Morrissey fan (musically) i had to learn that
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Post subject: Re: Mark Kozelek | Sun Kil Moon | Red House Painters
Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 10:40 pm
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psychobain wrote:
Mickey wrote:
dad wrote:
I've a feeling kozelek doesn't give a shit about cancel culture. also, while it also strikes me as obvious behavior from him based on his personality, it sucks when someone whose art you enjoy winds up being a goddamn monster.
Yeah that's where I'm at--not at all surprised given the past six years, but on the other hand Ghosts of the Great Highway and Benji were big albums for me and they definitely feel tainted now. What a piece of shit.
Dont let an idiot ruin your fav music
As a huge Ryan Adams and Morrissey fan (musically) i had to learn that
I think it's a little more complicated than that--I said it in another thread, but the parallel one of his victims draws to Louis CK is really apt. I loved Benji--and I loved Louis--but in both cases the appeal of the art is the (yes, partially fabricated) conceit that it hovers somewhere between fiction and autobiography. It's a little different from being like, "oh well, Aziz Ansari is a piece of shit, so I can't watch him play this other role in a movie." There's something much ickier about Kozelek because of the lack of distance between his personal life and his art.
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its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Post subject: Re: Mark Kozelek | Sun Kil Moon | Red House Painters
Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 10:49 pm
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Mickey wrote:
psychobain wrote:
Mickey wrote:
dad wrote:
I've a feeling kozelek doesn't give a shit about cancel culture. also, while it also strikes me as obvious behavior from him based on his personality, it sucks when someone whose art you enjoy winds up being a goddamn monster.
Yeah that's where I'm at--not at all surprised given the past six years, but on the other hand Ghosts of the Great Highway and Benji were big albums for me and they definitely feel tainted now. What a piece of shit.
Dont let an idiot ruin your fav music
As a huge Ryan Adams and Morrissey fan (musically) i had to learn that
I think it's a little more complicated than that--I said it in another thread, but the parallel one of his victims draws to Louis CK is really apt. I loved Benji--and I loved Louis--but in both cases the appeal of the art is the (yes, partially fabricated) conceit that it hovers somewhere between fiction and autobiography. It's a little different from being like, "oh well, Aziz Ansari is a piece of shit, so I can't watch him play this other role in a movie." There's something much ickier about Kozelek because of the lack of distance between his personal life and his art.
This, exactly.
Also, I think you have to be willing to own your shit, and so far the men involved in these cases (Louis, Adams) has yet to actually own their shit in a remotely believable way.
It’s more, woe is me... fuck that.
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Post subject: Re: Mark Kozelek | Sun Kil Moon | Red House Painters
Posted: Fri August 14, 2020 12:11 am
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Mickey wrote:
psychobain wrote:
Mickey wrote:
dad wrote:
I've a feeling kozelek doesn't give a shit about cancel culture. also, while it also strikes me as obvious behavior from him based on his personality, it sucks when someone whose art you enjoy winds up being a goddamn monster.
Yeah that's where I'm at--not at all surprised given the past six years, but on the other hand Ghosts of the Great Highway and Benji were big albums for me and they definitely feel tainted now. What a piece of shit.
Dont let an idiot ruin your fav music
As a huge Ryan Adams and Morrissey fan (musically) i had to learn that
I think it's a little more complicated than that--I said it in another thread, but the parallel one of his victims draws to Louis CK is really apt. I loved Benji--and I loved Louis--but in both cases the appeal of the art is the (yes, partially fabricated) conceit that it hovers somewhere between fiction and autobiography. It's a little different from being like, "oh well, Aziz Ansari is a piece of shit, so I can't watch him play this other role in a movie." There's something much ickier about Kozelek because of the lack of distance between his personal life and his art.
i can see this...i guess i tend to not focus on it as much with musicians since i can kinda get lost in the instrumentation and vocals and force the lyrics to the back of my mind...a louis ck standup special is almost impossible to do something similar with
Post subject: Re: Mark Kozelek | Sun Kil Moon | Red House Painters
Posted: Fri August 14, 2020 3:03 pm
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Mickey wrote:
dad wrote:
I've a feeling kozelek doesn't give a shit about cancel culture. also, while it also strikes me as obvious behavior from him based on his personality, it sucks when someone whose art you enjoy winds up being a goddamn monster.
Yeah that's where I'm at--not at all surprised given the past six years, but on the other hand Ghosts of the Great Highway and Benji were big albums for me and they definitely feel tainted now. What a piece of shit.
This is how I feel now about the first two Trapt albums.
Post subject: Re: Mark Kozelek | Sun Kil Moon | Red House Painters
Posted: Tue August 18, 2020 3:09 am
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August 17, 2020 It is important that I publicly and unconditionally deny that I engaged in the inappropriate and disturbing incidents falsely depicted in the media. While I support the important work of addressing legitimate claims of sexual misconduct, I reject the false allegations and innuendo in the recent press.
I have retained the legal counsel of Lavely & Singer to investigate and to pursue as necessary any claims against anyone participating to defame me in the media.
Post subject: Re: Mark Kozelek | Sun Kil Moon | Red House Painters
Posted: Tue August 18, 2020 3:22 am
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kreng wrote:
sunkilmoon.com
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August 17, 2020 It is important that I publicly and unconditionally deny that I engaged in the inappropriate and disturbing incidents falsely depicted in the media. While I support the important work of addressing legitimate claims of sexual misconduct, I reject the false allegations and innuendo in the recent press.
I have retained the legal counsel of Lavely & Singer to investigate and to pursue as necessary any claims against anyone participating to defame me in the media.
—Mark Kozelek
Well that oughta clear things up. Case closed.
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Post subject: Re: Mark Kozelek | Sun Kil Moon | Red House Painters
Posted: Mon October 26, 2020 11:18 pm
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Post subject: Re: Mark Kozelek | Sun Kil Moon | Red House Painters
Posted: Sat March 06, 2021 2:34 am
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Tracklist 1. Ain't That a Thing (06:50) 2. Full of Life (13:27) 3. Plywood Storefront Summer (03:32) 4. Canadian Geese (07:54) 5. October Blues (08:27) 6. Love Song (08:09) 7. November 2020 (09:33) 8. Spain (05:31) 9. Snowbound (05:40) 10. Cloudless Innocence (08:50)
Total length: 01:17:53
Produced by Mark Kozelek and Rhds Schlr Vocals by Mark Kozelek/Music by Rhds Schlr Except for 'Spain' Music by Chris Connolly/Rhds Schlr Recorded by Rhds Schlr Additional music and guitars by Mark Kozelek Guitar on 'Full of Life' by Brandon Ross Additional voice on 'Full of Life' by Joan Wasser Piano on 'Spain' by Chris Connolly
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