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Vote Before You Can Vote!
Donald Trump (R) 44%  44%  [ 59 ]
Joe Biden (D) 41%  41%  [ 55 ]
Jacob Hornberger (L) 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Howie Hawkins (G) 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Other 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
COVID-19 12%  12%  [ 16 ]
Total votes : 133
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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
PostPosted: Thu July 02, 2020 3:23 pm 
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I’d like to thank the Democrats for taking an historical opportunity to present themselves as a serious, care-minded alternative to anger and arrogance, and instead coming up with this shit

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_070220/

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Half of the nation’s electorate says they have ruled out voting for Donald Trump in November, while 4 in 10 say the same about Joe Biden. Biden currently holds a 12 point lead in the presidential race according to the latest Monmouth (“Mon-muth”) University Poll. Biden holds a significant advantage among the 1 in 5 voters who do not have a favorable opinion of either candidate. Slightly more voters say they are confident about the challenger’s mental and physical stamina than say the same about the incumbent.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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It’s even dumber than I thought

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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It’s even dumber than I thought

I expected a lot more pyrotechnics and echo.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Feels like a Brawndo ad.

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its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Not nearly as bad as the Trump = Castro ad though.

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its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Who cares. I’m sure they’re developing ads specifically targeted at every possible market; I fully expect to see Biden in an apron with Rachel Ray on the Food Network. Only political needs like us pay attention to this stuff, but if the “manly” ad campaign runs during NFL games or some such, who can blame them.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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I certainly think it matters if the implicit promise made in each of these ads is that Biden, unlike Trump, is a real tough guy who will stand up to American enemies--it's not hard to see this as a promise of more hawkishness. For example, courting the anti-Maduro/anti-Castro South Beach voting bloc tells us something we can expect about Biden's foreign policy in Latin America. So, sure, get the votes you need, but don't be surprised if you alienate anti-interventionist voters or, perhaps more problematically, end up confirming the suspicion that mainstream Democrats will say anything to get elected and don't actually care about the voters, leading to further erosion of trust in governing institutions.

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its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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I have SO many issues with the "manly" angle/take but I don't want to ruin Bammer's weekend so I'll just ride in Mickey's lane. Well said, Mickey.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Mickey wrote:
I certainly think it matters if the implicit promise made in each of these ads is that Biden, unlike Trump, is a real tough guy who will stand up to American enemies--it's not hard to see this as a promise of more hawkishness. For example, courting the anti-Maduro/anti-Castro South Beach voting bloc tells us something we can expect about Biden's foreign policy in Latin America. So, sure, get the votes you need, but don't be surprised if you alienate anti-interventionist voters or, perhaps more problematically, end up confirming the suspicion that mainstream Democrats will say anything to get elected and don't actually care about the voters, leading to further erosion of trust in governing institutions.

Well this is where we differ. Biden could fail to deliver on any number of campaign promises and STILL reinvigorate some trust in our Federal institutions simply by being competent at his job. He’s got literally nothing to lose in this regard, is my thinking,


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Bezos Times wrote:
Trump is beating Biden on the most important factor in this campaign

Opinion by Brad Parscale
July 1, 2020

Brad Parscale is the campaign manager of President Trump’s reelection campaign.

“Bush’s Rating Falls To Its Lowest Point, New Survey Finds,” read a bold headline on the front page of the New York Times on June 29, 2004. The Times described a fraught atmosphere among the electorate, with growing angst over the Iraq War and concerns over domestic security less than three years after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11. The dire survey, according to the Times, meant President George W. Bush was likely to be a one-term president. “Presidents with job approval ratings below 50 percent in the spring of election years have generally gone on to lose,” said the Times. Bush’s approval rating at the time was 42 percent.

Sixteen years later, President Trump faces a barrage of similar headlines predicting likely defeat — pointing to national polling and an anxious population combating a global pandemic. But Trump is following through on his promises to the American people, and his reelection campaign is well positioned to spread his pro-growth economic agenda and contrast the president to 47-year career politician Joe Biden — who epitomizes the very system that has led to the current protests, and in many instances, civil unrest.

The president’s reelection war chest, including a record-setting $131 million raised in June from thousands of donors at all levels, reflects the continued support, enthusiasm and confidence so many Americans have in President Trump and his agenda. The massive amount raised in June eclipses the total raised in any single month of 2016.

In terms of turnout, the president’s reelection effort has built the largest field program and data operation in Republican Party history, including 1.3 million volunteers trained and activated. The campaign has already made north of 45 million voter contacts, and efforts are growing stronger by the day.

And when it comes to the most important factor, enthusiasm, President Trump is dominating. The unprecedented enthusiasm behind the president’s reelection efforts stands in stark contrast to the flat, almost nonexistent enthusiasm for Biden.

President Trump experienced record-setting vote totals as the 2020 primary season kicked off. Despite the fact he is running essentially unopposed, voters are turning out in record numbers to voice their support for the president. In 23 of the 27 states that held primaries both now and in 2012, Trump outpaced then-President Barack Obama’s vote by wide margins, even doubling Obama’s numbers. President Trump’s numbers have dwarfed not just Obama’s, but Bush’s as well. In Wisconsin in 2020, the president received more than 616,000 votes — compared with Obama’s 293,914 and Bush’s 158,933 votes received in 2004. In Georgia, the president hit almost 1 million primary votes this year, compared with Obama’s 139,273 and Bush’s 161,374. By contrast, Biden continues to struggle to even establish a base, let alone inspire it.

“Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it” is a tired yet prescient phrase. Many mock the suggestion that President Trump is once again the outsider in 2020. “How can the incumbent president of the United States run as an outsider?” goes the conventional wisdom. When your opponent has been a career politician in Washington for 47 years and is campaigning on a return to the former status quo, it’s clear who the insider is and who remains the political outsider. Biden, like Hillary Clinton in 2016, is a career politician who has been a central part of the very Washington political system that voters opposed in 2016 and are doing so again.

Biden’s near half-century-long political career is littered with terrible policy decisions that have had disastrous effects on the American middle class over the past four decades.

In 1994, he wrote one of the most devastating pieces of legislation in recent history — the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act that disproportionately put hundreds of thousands of young black men in prison.

In 2001, he championed China’s entry to the World Trade Organization — which enabled the loss of 60,000 U.S. factories.

In 2002, he voted for the war in Iraq that cost thousands of American lives and trillions of dollars.

Every single one of those major decisions that make up Biden’s legacy contributed to the electorate’s pushback against the status quo. Trump understood the mood of the country and how both major political parties ignored the plight of the working man and woman of America.

The campaign has only just begun to define Biden and introduce the American electorate to who he really is: a 47-year career politician whose actions decimated American working families and betrayed black Americans.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Team trag.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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How many times are the projections going to reverse between election day and whenever all the mail-in ballots finally get counted?

How long is that going to be? 1 week? 2?


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Superblood Wolfmoon wrote:
Team trag.
He may have a point in the context of President Biden. But that's if and only if he is actually elected. That kind of thinking, however, runs up against a pretty serious roadblock in the campaign as it's the exact kind of thing that gave us a President Donald Fucking Trump. Little to no reason to think that kind of thing wouldn't also deliver re-election. Division only favors one candidate.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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simple schoolboy wrote:
How many times are the projections going to reverse between election day and whenever all the mail-in ballots finally get counted?

How long is that going to be? 1 week? 2?

It’s going to be realllly messy.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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McParadigm wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
How many times are the projections going to reverse between election day and whenever all the mail-in ballots finally get counted?

How long is that going to be? 1 week? 2?

It’s going to be realllly messy.


November sounds like a good time for a 3 week camping trip off the grid.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Superblood Wolfmoon wrote:
Team trag.
He may have a point in the context of President Biden. But that's if and only if he is actually elected. That kind of thinking, however, runs up against a pretty serious roadblock in the campaign as it's the exact kind of thing that gave us a President Donald Fucking Trump. Little to no reason to think that kind of thing wouldn't also deliver re-election. Division only favors one candidate.

That's Donald Jesus Trump, ok?

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Did anyone even watch Trump's hate rally in front of the stone men tonight? It's a Friday night holiday weekend. Nobody is sitting around watching reruns of celebrity apprentice.

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