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 Post subject: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
PostPosted: Wed June 10, 2020 3:57 pm 
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Looks like you're having an episode again, hope you feel better soon.


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 Post subject: Re: Black Lives Matter
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 Post subject: Re: Black Lives Matter
PostPosted: Wed June 10, 2020 7:23 pm 
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I was going to give that a watch, even though I knew that guy was going to be some kind of weird black Republican, but 2 minutes in, he's talking about playing jazz trombone at Columbia, blah, blah, blah ... I'm out.

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Fuck, B was right all along?


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 Post subject: Re: Black Lives Matter
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"weird black republican" is actually a racist thing to say


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 Post subject: Re: Black Lives Matter
PostPosted: Wed June 10, 2020 7:37 pm 
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Possibly. I don't claim perfection. I keep trying.

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 Post subject: Re: Black Lives Matter
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It's OK. I'm just tired of everyone falsely calling people racists and then wanted to prop this up as an actual example of judging someone based on the color of their skin, as if it's weird for black people to be republican because black people should all think alike. This is actually something he addresses in the video, ironically.


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 Post subject: Re: Black Lives Matter
PostPosted: Wed June 10, 2020 7:50 pm 
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No, I don't mind some introspection about what I said. Avoiding the discussion is the problem. Maybe it's wrong to assume all blacks are liberals just because the Republican party has shown unabashed anger at an policy that attempts to correct systemic racism.

But I'm definitely not going to slog through that boring ass video to find out.

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 Post subject: Re: Black Lives Matter
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Maybe systemic racism is almost entirely a thing of the past. Maybe there are other issues/forces at play holding groups of people down.


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 Post subject: Re: Black Lives Matter
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 Post subject: Re: Black Lives Matter
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Maybe


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 Post subject: Re: Black Lives Matter
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empirically, nope


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 Post subject: Re: Black Lives Matter
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empirically, nope
Show me the facts, please.


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 Post subject: Re: Black Lives Matter
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Do your own homework, please


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 Post subject: Re: Black Lives Matter
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But you're the one who said "empirically". It's on you to show your work. All I said was "maybe". I've done the work that doesn't convince me already.


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 Post subject: Re: Black Lives Matter
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But you're the one who said "empirically". It's on you to show your work. All I said was "maybe". I've done the work that doesn't convince me already.

No. The onus is on you to show that systemic racism is a thing of the past.

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 Post subject: Re: Black Lives Matter
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I'm not doing this with you. It's fun for you. It's not fun for anyone else.


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 Post subject: Re: Black Lives Matter
PostPosted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:12 pm 
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tree_ wrote:
But you're the one who said "empirically". It's on you to show your work. All I said was "maybe". I've done the work that doesn't convince me already.

No. The onus is on you to show that systemic racism is a thing of the past.
I said MAYBE. Did you see that? I said that I don't know. I don't have proof either way. I DON'T KNOW. I suspect you don't know either. It is fun to be on the bandwagon though, isn't it?


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 Post subject: Re: Black Lives Matter
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Goddamn, Joe. You’re hot as a two-dollar pistol today.

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 Post subject: Re: Black Lives Matter
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tree_ wrote:
wease wrote:
tree_ wrote:
But you're the one who said "empirically". It's on you to show your work. All I said was "maybe". I've done the work that doesn't convince me already.

No. The onus is on you to show that systemic racism is a thing of the past.
I said MAYBE. Did you see that? I said that I don't know. I don't have proof either way. I DON'T KNOW. I suspect you don't know either. It is fun to be on the bandwagon though, isn't it?

Joe’s right. I don’t know why I ever clicked to see your posts. It’s just the same old bullshit with you.

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 Post subject: Re: Black Lives Matter
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tree_ wrote:
But you're the one who said "empirically". It's on you to show your work. All I said was "maybe". I've done the work that doesn't convince me already.


Can you show us your work (so far)?


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