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stip · **Joined:** Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm **Posts:** 39303

bodysnatcher wrote:

"Other Side" differs?

can someone confirm this?

We're not interested in logging in every place a song appears as much as where the different versions are.

Jorge · **Posted:** Thu September 12, 2013 6:54 pm

You guys need to do this incorporating every live version.

Kevin Davis · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 6:06 pm **Posts:** 8513

cutuphalfdead wrote:

I remember when Lost Dogs came out a quote from Stone saying he liked one version of Strangest Tribe better than the other. I haven't compared them though so who knows.

He comments in the liner notes that he prefers the song on a CD rather than a 45, could that be what you're remembering?

Norris · **Posted:** Thu September 12, 2013 6:58 pm

Kevin Davis wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

I remember when Lost Dogs came out a quote from Stone saying he liked one version of Strangest Tribe better than the other. I haven't compared them though so who knows.

He comments in the liner notes that he prefers the song on a CD rather than a 45, could that be what you're remembering?

Yep, that's what I'm thinking of. Are they actually any different though? I don't think it was rerecorded, but was it remastered or anything?

Kevin Davis · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 6:06 pm **Posts:** 8513

The Wiki page seems pretty thorough in listing the discrepancies between versions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Dogs_%28album%29

Nothing for "Strangest Tribe."

Norris · **Posted:** Thu September 12, 2013 7:00 pm

Interesting

stip · **Joined:** Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm **Posts:** 39303

okay, someone with access to both songs please give a listen.

Norris · **Posted:** Thu September 12, 2013 7:41 pm

They're different. The 1999 45 version is a little faster. I aligned them in a multitrack session with one panned to the left and the other to the right, and aligned them so the opening lyrics start at the exact same time and they gradually drift out of alignment.

Norris · **Posted:** Thu September 12, 2013 7:50 pm

Also, to get the opening line synced up the guitar playing before that is slightly out of time.

Here, listen. The left channel is the original and the right channel is Lost Dogs.

Neo · **Posted:** Thu September 12, 2013 7:53 pm

Insignificance: Binaural (Brendan O'Brien mix); Nothing As It Seems single (Tchad Blake mix)

Jorge · **Posted:** Thu September 12, 2013 7:54 pm

Same performance though, it sounds like. Could this be due to a difference in tape speeds and whatnot?

Jorge · **Posted:** Thu September 12, 2013 7:58 pm

Or maybe one was Protooled for tempo correction and the other one wasn't. The performances appear to be identical.

Norris · **Posted:** Thu September 12, 2013 7:58 pm

theplatypus wrote:

Same performance though, it sounds like. Could this be due to a difference in tape speeds and whatnot?

Maybe, but if they came from the same performance they'd have the same master recording, right? Would the discrepancy then come from an analog transfer for one and then a different transfer for the other?

Norris · **Posted:** Thu September 12, 2013 7:59 pm

theplatypus wrote:

Or maybe one was Protooled for tempo correction and the other one wasn't. The performances appear to be identical.

I agree with you. The only difference is with the mastering (which might seem more different than it is because the original one is a vinyl transfer) and the speed.

bodysnatcher · **Posted:** Thu September 12, 2013 7:59 pm

theplatypus wrote:

Same performance though, it sounds like. Could this be due to a difference in tape speeds and whatnot?

That's what I was wondering. Maybe the vinyl version was ripped from a player that had a slightly off RPM?

Norris · **Posted:** Thu September 12, 2013 8:00 pm

bodysnatcher wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

Same performance though, it sounds like. Could this be due to a difference in tape speeds and whatnot?

That's what I was wondering. Maybe the vinyl version was ripped from a player that had a slightly off RPM?

Jorge · **Posted:** Thu September 12, 2013 8:00 pm

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Norris · **Posted:** Thu September 12, 2013 8:01 pm

I do think the Lost Dogs version is mastered differently though.

Norris · **Posted:** Thu September 12, 2013 8:01 pm

theplatypus wrote:

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

derp

bodysnatcher · **Posted:** Thu September 12, 2013 8:12 pm

theplatypus wrote:

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

i laughed at that more than i should have

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