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 Post subject: Re: Pedantic Struggles: The All Encompassing Philosophy Thre
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BurtReynolds wrote:
It seems that most of philosophy boils down to one of two life strategies:

1: Align yourself with the demiurge/universe/reality.

2: Rebel against it.

I read once that they boil down to "Gonna live" or "May as well kill myself."


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BurtReynolds wrote:
It seems that most of philosophy boils down to one of two life strategies:

1: Align yourself with the demiurge/universe/reality.

2: Rebel against it.

I read once that they boil down to "Gonna live" or "May as well kill myself."

I think that's one way it turns up. Another way: Most sects of religions like Christianity or Buddhism teach that one should deny this world for the promise of another, better one (rebellion), while opponents say that this is the only world, and that we should embrace it fully in order to live best (alignment).

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Humanity once worshipped the gods.

Then our art turned to veneration of the nobility, great generals and rulers, etc.

Then we idolized to the common man, the working class hero, the grunt soldier.

Then it was celebration of gangsters and pirates and anti-heroes.

Now, finally, we have arrived at this:

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Can we go any lower?

"Once spirit was God, then it became man, and now it even becometh populace."

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Judaism begat Catholicism begat Protestantism begat capitalism begat humanism begat egalitarianism begat socialism

I think I have the progression right...

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Where does juggaloism fall in that chronology


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bart wrote:
Where does juggaloism fall in that chronology

The tragic final act.

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https://mises.org/library/secession-begins-home-0

secession begins at home, kiddos.

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His two final complete works besides Ecce Homo, both pretty short reads.

Twilight of the Idols or How to Philosophize with a Hammer is a bit scattershot and mostly deals with critiques of contemporary figures, but there is a lot of good stuff in there. A lot of it I've heard before, though.

The Anti-Christ is fantastic. Not so much an attack on Jesus as an attack on Christianity (the title can be translated as The Anti-Christian). Basically, the early Christians completely missed the point of Jesus's philosophy, and as a result, humanity has been fucked ever since.

This isn't some fedora-tipping attack on "old man in the clouds watching over or punishing us" conceptions of religion, either. That's not worth arguing about. Its an attack on the Christian mindset itself, and its impact on the world. All religions may be a lie, but Christianity's lie, compared to Hinduism or Buddhism or even Islam, is particularly bad.

His conception of Jesus as sort of a semi-Buddhist or hindu is actually appealing (though Nietzsche still isn't a Christian in that sense either). I'd have to read the New Testament to compare, though.

The best part is his stages explaining how religion becomes destructive over time, starting with how a people's idea of God gets corrupted from an affirmative expression of that people's power to a god of punishment, as that culture begins to decline. With Christianity, this hit a critical mass and ended up infecting the world, not just the jews it started with.

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I like that one Burt.


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Philosopher of our times.


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It's interesting how the virus is blurring the battle lines. The tribal leaders are having trouble fitting the virus into their narratives in a coherent us/them way. Especially with the Republicans. Maybe all the hypocrisy is finally starting to catch up with them?

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Normies will watch Tiger King and wonder who put these people in charge, never understanding that no one did. Dumb/psychotic people simply take charge. "Rational" people don't.

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They weren't in charge of anything other than a makeshift zoo. That's not very... Impressive? We have three dogs. I could change my name to Chris Canine and start a dog rescue, but I don't

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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
They weren't in charge of anything other than a makeshift zoo. That's not very... Impressive? We have three dogs. I could change my name to Chris Canine and start a dog rescue, but I don't

They are all multi-millionaires and have harems and drugs and armies of homeless meth addicts.

Nobody is paying to see your dogs.

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BurtReynolds wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
They weren't in charge of anything other than a makeshift zoo. That's not very... Impressive? We have three dogs. I could change my name to Chris Canine and start a dog rescue, but I don't

They are all multi-millionaires and have harems and drugs and armies of homeless meth addicts.

Nobody is paying to see your dogs.

Yes but I'm in charge

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Also wasn't the point of that show that none of them were multi millionaires and they all just scammed people for money? They used Walmart expired meat bins to feed the tigers.

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