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Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
Posted: Mon July 22, 2019 3:19 pm
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Thanks GH. This was such a troubling episode for me (and the source of a blowout with durden).
I've followed Franken closely for years, and the story that came out was suspect for a number of reasons. I think like 98% of the men accused (celebrities or otherwise) are guilty of taking advantage of their station, but that just didn't jive with everything I knew about Franken, and the railroad approach felt really dangerous considering all the good he'd done in the Senate.
Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
Posted: Mon July 22, 2019 3:25 pm
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Even if we stipulate that Tweeden had some political axe to grind, even after reading that I don't feel like I have enough of an explanation for all the other accusations that piled up after that. As I recall that time, it seemed like Franken had navigated the Tweeden accusation well until all the rest of that piled up.
Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
Posted: Mon July 22, 2019 3:27 pm
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tragabigzanda wrote:
Thanks GH. This was such a troubling episode for me (and the source of a blowout with durden).
I've followed Franken closely for years, and the story that came out was suspect for a number of reasons. I think like 98% of the men accused (celebrities or otherwise) are guilty of taking advantage of their station, but that just didn't jive with everything I knew about Franken, and the railroad approach felt really dangerous considering all the good he'd done in the Senate.
I offer no opinion on this thread, but it would go to explain the raw political calculus of the situation.
Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
Posted: Mon July 22, 2019 3:48 pm
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I haven't read the whole piece yet, though I'm eager to -- but is "piling up" too strong a phrase hear? There were, I think, 3-4 other women who all said basically the same thing: "We took a photo together one time in public, and his hand was on my butt/boob."
Re: the "political calculus," I think it comes down to whether or not Tina Smith is on pace to be as effective on Indian Affairs, Rural Affairs, etc (I believe she inherited all of Franken's committee assignments).
Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
Posted: Mon July 22, 2019 8:37 pm
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tragabigzanda wrote:
Well duh
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Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
Posted: Wed July 24, 2019 4:15 am
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Honest Trailers guy's defense sounds pretty tight. Could be all bullshit, but we'll see. Hopefully he got some money out of the people who left him out to dry.
Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
Posted: Wed July 24, 2019 11:09 am
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BurtReynolds wrote:
Honest Trailers guy's defense sounds pretty tight. Could be all bullshit, but we'll see. Hopefully he got some money out of the people who left him out to dry.
It's funny to hear him say that he hit on fans while he was married, that he was arrogant, and abusive, but he's angry that people would believe bad things about him.
"I was a Bad Person Level 3. How dare people believe that I was a Bad Person Level 4?"
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