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Yeah, I can't believe that incredibly disingenuous Washington Post headline that reads: "Warren releases DNA test suggesting distant Native American ancestor"
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
Yeah, I can't believe that incredibly disingenuous Washington Post headline that reads: "Warren releases DNA test suggesting distant Native American ancestor"
or
Senator Elizabeth Warren has released the results of a DNA test which shows "strong evidence" of her Native American ancestry.
or (from your neck of the woods)
No more Pocahontas, Now, can Warren overcome the ‘blah blah blah’ gene with voters? New DNA evidence proves Elizabeth Warren’s Native American heritage. But it won’t be enough stop the sexist attacks from the GOP.
or
Elizabeth Warren releases DNA test with 'strong evidence' of Native American ancestry
or
Elizabeth Warren releases DNA results indicating she has Native American heritage
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She's as native American as the Cleveland Indians. 6 to 10 generations ago does not make you a native, you insane clowns. The issue is of course overblown, but she obviously was a fraud to claim it. Obviously.
But like someone said, every dumbass white kid claims they are at one point as well, so it just makes her normal. But of course Trump didn't lose his stupid bet over it. (edit: though it now seems she used it to her advantage quite a bit)
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So all these newspapers should have editorialized the story by saying that despite actually having some Native American ancestry, she shouldn't claim it?
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
So all these newspapers should have editorialized the story by saying that despite actually having some Native American ancestry, she shouldn't claim it?
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BurtReynolds wrote:
She's as native American as the Cleveland Indians. 6 to 10 generations ago does not make you a native, you insane clowns. The issue is of course overblown, but she obviously was a fraud to claim it. Obviously.
But like someone said, every dumbass white kid claims they are at one point as well, so it just makes her normal. But of course Trump didn't lose his stupid bet over it.
You're conflating two separate issues. Was Warren right to claim native ancestry vs. is the media reporting on this slanting positively towards her. Like Chud said, out of those headlines you cited, the only one that sounds like spin is an opinion piece in the "Opinion" section of the Boston Globe. It's possible that there are other news stories that are more overt, but not the ones you posted. The ones that claim "strong heritage" are quoting directly from the test results, and the other one is a simple factual statement.
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BurtReynolds wrote:
She's as native American as the Cleveland Indians. 6 to 10 generations ago does not make you a native, you insane clowns. The issue is of course overblown, but she obviously was a fraud to claim it. Obviously.
What is the correct number of generations one may go back to claim ancestry?
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A much better argument would be that she made the claim prior to actually investigating it, and the accuracy of it is inconsequential to whether or not she was factually certain of its accuracy at the time.
The rush instead to borrow the language of racial purity is...a bummer.
For the record, Trump didn't make the bet. He said he could make the bet.
Good people would pay, but Trump is not good people.
It was such a dumb angle. The media is still a thousand miles behind the realities of the day, and only sees the opportunity to click bait-angle Trump’s name into a story.
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McParadigm wrote:
A much better argument would be that she made the claim prior to actually investigating it, and the accuracy of it is inconsequential to whether or not she was factually certain of its accuracy at the time.
The rush instead to borrow the language of racial purity is...a bummer.
If your parents said you had ____ ancestry your whole life, would you think twice before putting it on a form? It's not like she called a press conference. People dug through her employment paperwork to find this "claim."
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B wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
A much better argument would be that she made the claim prior to actually investigating it, and the accuracy of it is inconsequential to whether or not she was factually certain of its accuracy at the time.
The rush instead to borrow the language of racial purity is...a bummer.
If your parents said you had ____ ancestry your whole life, would you think twice before putting it on a form? It's not like she called a press conference. People dug through her employment paperwork to find this "claim."
Right, but she's also been on the defense for this for way too long. People who are pissed about any semblance -- real or imagine -- of her claiming to have somehow experienced the culture have a valid gripe, as the media has spun this so far beyond what really transpired. She's playing it for headlines now too.
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