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Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri September 14, 2018 10:50 pm
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
Joined: Sun September 15, 2013 5:50 am Posts: 22493
just preparing for manafort to finger trump, and we will all be feverishly masturbating
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One of the most blandly unsettling passages in Bob Woodward’s Fear recounts the near resignation of Gary Cohn, one of the book’s likely sources and (therefore) heroes. In August 2017, Cohn, nauseated at President Trump’s equivocation over neo-Nazis demonstrating in Charlottesville, Virginia, attempted to quit. Trump berated Cohn for his weakness and, characteristically equating political loyalty to himself with loyalty to the country, accused Cohn of “treason.” “It was chilling,” Woodward reports.
Then Trump tried another approach. “If you leave now, taxes are over,” he warned. By this he meant the massive corporate tax cuts Cohn had helped to craft and from which he also stood to personally benefit. Cohn’s moral outrage began to drain, and he instead decided to stay on, prioritizing the taxes, or, as Woodward has him selflessly declaring, “helping the country.”
There is no better symbol for the Republican Party elite in the Trump era than Gary Cohn weighing the morality of opposing Nazism against corporate-tax-rate cuts and choosing the latter.
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Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat September 15, 2018 4:52 am
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McParadigm wrote:
We just talked about why this effectively nullifies any pardon ambitions earlier today.
On top of this--I don't 1000% understand this, but will try to find a source, so bear with me for a second--apparently, since Manafort has pled guilty, he effectively has given up his 5th ammendment rights if he gets pardoned. If he gets subpoenad to discuss something he's been pardoned for, he can't be charged with it, so he can't refuse to discuss it; if he did, he could be charged with contempt of court or obstruction, which he'd then have to be pardoned for again. Madness.
Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat September 15, 2018 1:03 pm
Production Police
Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm Posts: 47225 Location: In the oatmeal aisle wearing a Shellac shirt
Simple Torture wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
We just talked about why this effectively nullifies any pardon ambitions earlier today.
On top of this--I don't 1000% understand this, but will try to find a source, so bear with me for a second--apparently, since Manafort has pled guilty, he effectively has given up his 5th ammendment rights if he gets pardoned. If he gets subpoenad to discuss something he's been pardoned for, he can't be charged with it, so he can't refuse to discuss it; if he did, he could be charged with contempt of court or obstruction, which he'd then have to be pardoned for again. Madness.
Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat September 15, 2018 11:49 pm
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
Joined: Sun September 15, 2013 5:50 am Posts: 22493
i always figured trump's plan was really to start abducting and murdering people
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Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun September 16, 2018 2:00 am
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
Joined: Sun September 15, 2013 5:50 am Posts: 22493
as incompetent and despicable as uncle leo is, all i can do at this point is direct my utter dissatisfaction with the republican congress
trump and whoever may have done this shady shit with russia, and are treading water to save themselves
but few if any GOP congressmen were directly involved
and this asswipe POTUS has proven he is a danger to everybody
but then they prop him up
and thereby become complicit in his acts
fuck 'em
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Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun September 16, 2018 2:07 am
Production Police
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96583UP wrote:
but few if any GOP congressmen were directly involved
I'm less confident in this after watching Dark Money last night. I have a hunch that a LOT of cash went from Russia, Israel, etc to GOP candidates in the form of dark money efforts
Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun September 16, 2018 2:43 am
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
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i would tend to classify the NRA money as more of an 'indirect' involvement
of course, if the candidate was totally aware that NRA was effectively laundering soviet money to influence them, then direct, yes, direct
this is the problem when we don't pay politicians a living wage!
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