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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
PostPosted: Mon June 25, 2018 3:43 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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That story about Maynard seems to be gaining traction a bit

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I am starting to hear rumors that Bill Cosby may have been involved in impropriety

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
PostPosted: Wed June 27, 2018 12:57 am 
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Rangi Guy wrote:
That story about Maynard seems to be gaining traction a bit

Yikes

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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On the Maynard thing - not sure if this paints him in a better or worse light


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It’s not true. OK, so I’m just another guy on the internet, but I’ve had the privilege of getting backstage on more than a few separate occasions for both Tool & APC. I am somewhat well known taper, been to 103 Tool shows, and 50+ APC shows, 20+ Pusicfer shows. I’ve got the passes to prove it, I was even given one of the Maynard harem passes because they were out of the standard ones. I also have had 2 female friends (age 20 & 23 at the time) pass muster and get to sleep with Maynard and have gotten all the details. One ended up being a repeat contact because she lived in LA and could participate with him there when off tour.
First off, there is and was no blonde heavy set woman who acted as his handler for this. Women do receive special passes, but they were handed out from his all male security staff.

2. The security staff checks IDs. If you are not of age, you do not get to go backstage. 17, though “legal” in some states, does not make the cut. Full stop.

3. Passes for Maynard are different than the normal backstage pass for the show. A couple examples I can think of (and one I own that I received personally when they were out of normal ones) has a [collage of women in KISS makeup sucking dick or other sexual acts.] (https://d9nvuahg4xykp.cloudfront.net/-7 ... 531890.jpg) An APC one had a picture of Maynard in Roman garb that said “Have you serviced your gladiator today?” or something similar. There are no illusions about what you are there for.

4. All backstage people are brought backstage to 1 or 2 rooms. Sometimes the Maynard groupies are brought to a separate room. It’s never 1 woman alone. The smallest group I saw was 5 or 6 women, but could be up to 20. Maynard makes an appearance in the room, might make some chitchat, and then leaves. His security staff will then approach whichever 1 or 2 women that Maynard has selected for the night and tell them that Maynard would like them to come back to the bus or the hotel for the night.

5. Both experiences recounted to me, from two women who do not know each other, Maynard was caring, slow and gentle. There was no pressure. He is interested in anal as you would assume, but did not with the one because she never had. Again, no pressure. This act ended up happening later when she was one of his regulars in LA.

6. After the act, both women had nothing but good things to say about him and about the security staff (Making sure they were OK to leave the area and had some transportation as they left).

So you take those 2 accounts, and also what I saw happen in general with the process other times backstage, make the accusers account incredibly hard to believe. For the guy down below in the thread who’s girlfriend was weirded out for not letting her BF backstage with her, I hope you understand by now that Maynard does not and will not meet normal Tool fans. Never. Has he appeared at any of the Tool clinics? No. Has he ever appeared at any of the APC VIP events? No. I only met him once backstage and he was not thrilled with my concert total. Actually told me that I shouldn’t see them that many times. The meeting only happened because I was in with a group of family for another person on the crew. I haven’t been backstage since he’s been married, so I don’t know if his groupie whoring has continued. I don’t think he should be demonized for this behavior. Yeah it sucks that he doesn’t want to meet the casual fan to have them gush over his music, but it doesn’t make me want to listen to them less.

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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Rangi Guy wrote:
On the Maynard thing - not sure if this paints him in a better or worse light

This is, on its own, pretty horrifying to me.

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An APC one had a picture of Maynard in Roman garb that said “Have you serviced your gladiator today?” or something similar. There are no illusions about what you are there for.

Really, how do you determine that?

This is some gross as hell apologist shit.


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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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Rangi Guy wrote:
On the Maynard thing - not sure if this paints him in a better or worse light

This is, on its own, pretty horrifying to me.

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An APC one had a picture of Maynard in Roman garb that said “Have you serviced your gladiator today?” or something similar. There are no illusions about what you are there for.

Really, how do you determine that?

This is some gross as hell apologist shit.

Doesn't help things that there's a picture of one of these backstage passes - although wouldn't be hard to fake something up

Not sure what the f I was reading at this point
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Maynard was caring, slow and gentle. There was no pressure. He is interested in anal as you would assume, but did not with the one because she never had.

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
That story about Maynard seems to be gaining traction a bit

Yikes


This may shock you, but Tool fans are defending him (from another board):

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You'd think a 17 year old would be able to say no though, I know I would've.


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...don't think this has gone too far for long enough?


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If I had the fame he had, I'd have gotten my dick quite wet too, just as most "rock stars" have.


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Again though this was almost 20 years ago. Seeing interviews with the dude now and looking at what he's done since, it seems like those days are far far behind him. So what's the point of making him look bad now?

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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Rangi Guy wrote:
On the Maynard thing - not sure if this paints him in a better or worse light



For the record: better, much, much better. There is a galaxy wide difference between someone who bangs a lot of willing groupies and a rapist, fyi.

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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He is interested in anal as you would assume,

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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He is interested in anal as you would assume,


Wrong thread: viewtopic.php?p=4396#p4396

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Phew - glad that's over and dealt with....


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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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I mean......he had his phone off

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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can we lock this thread now? Clearly sexual assault has been defeated in this country now. Just ask Jameis Winston.

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