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I just don't enjoy watching stuff like that. Call me old fashioned, but I usually like to root for somebody in film & tv.
So you're not a Sopranos fan?
I loved The Sopranos, but I could route for Tony. I admire his weird ethical code. Patrick Bateman, and the gangsters in early Tarantino fit this mold too.
So, you find it easy to root for Patrick Bateman but not Don Draper?
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durdencommatyler wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
BootsToAsses wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
I just don't enjoy watching stuff like that. Call me old fashioned, but I usually like to root for somebody in film & tv.
So you're not a Sopranos fan?
I loved The Sopranos, but I could route for Tony. I admire his weird ethical code. Patrick Bateman, and the gangsters in early Tarantino fit this mold too.
So, you find it easy to root for Patrick Bateman but not Don Draper?
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tragabigzanda wrote:
BootsToAsses wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
I just don't enjoy watching stuff like that. Call me old fashioned, but I usually like to root for somebody in film & tv.
So you're not a Sopranos fan?
I loved The Sopranos, but I could route for Tony. I admire his weird ethical code. Patrick Bateman, and the gangsters in early Tarantino fit this mold too.
Tony was a HORRIBLE person, he was a hypocritical bully who destroyed many lives both literally and figuratively. I don't think he had much of an ethical code beyond loving his family
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theplatypus wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
BootsToAsses wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
I just don't enjoy watching stuff like that. Call me old fashioned, but I usually like to root for somebody in film & tv.
So you're not a Sopranos fan?
I loved The Sopranos, but I could route for Tony. I admire his weird ethical code. Patrick Bateman, and the gangsters in early Tarantino fit this mold too.
Tony was a HORRIBLE person, he was a hypocritical bully who destroyed many lives both literally and figuratively. I don't think he had much of an ethical code beyond loving his family
He had a code. He loved his friends, but the code of confidence trumped that (Big Pussy, etc). He hated his mother because she was awful, but he put up with it because she was family. He killed Christopher because he had become a risk to the larger goals...
I found him to be a very complex character. The toughest parts for me were when he would extort money from honest business owners.
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So, "love your family until they're a risk to your goals THEN KILL THEM" is an admirable code?
Tony is a complex and fascinating character, yes, but he is the definition of a horrible monster of a person, way more horrible than just a selfish and dishonest wall street crook (Jordan Belfort). Is the fact that Belfort is a real person what gets you?
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theplatypus wrote:
So, "love your family until they're a risk to your goals THEN KILL THEM" is an admirable code?
Tony is a complex and fascinating character, yes, but he is the definition of a horrible monster of a person, way more horrible than just a selfish and dishonest wall street crook (Jordan Belfort). Is the fact that Belfort is a real person what gets you?
No, I just thought he was obnoxious. His avarice was total; Tony Soprano's is one of inner turmoil.
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