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Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Mon January 29, 2018 1:37 pm
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jwfocker wrote:
In fact it confirms my point.
No one ever knows what your points is... we just try and avoid the abuse that results from disagreeing.
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Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Tue January 30, 2018 12:24 am
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Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14251
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Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Tue January 30, 2018 7:02 am
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Late night debate time:
jwfocker wrote:
In fact it confirms my point.
The problem is framed in such away that any reasonable response (anger, indignation, protest) will confirm your point. Not only is the phrase ill formed, but it is purposely so. It's SJW well-poisoning and is designed to stifle dissent.
The word "fragility" isn't chosen because it was the best descriptor of a phenomenon they claim exists (there is no evidence it exists or that it is unique to a race). It was chosen to provoke a reaction, and then to portray this reaction as an irrational overreaction, which it is not.
It's no different than saying black people "chimp out" or react to any criticism with anger because they are violent. Any angry black reaction to this racist statement can be interpreted as an angry overreaction or threat of violence, thus "proving" the statement.
Further, when using terms like this, by framing the issue in clumsy racial terms you are promoting a bigoted mode of thinking, a mode of thinking that harms marginalized groups more than it does whites or males, even when you are attacking whites or males.
We should be more precise in what we are saying and avoid sloganeering.
Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Wed January 31, 2018 5:59 am
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Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am Posts: 5593
Green Habit wrote:
The problem I have with focusing on school shootings, no matter how you define them, is that it's such a small portion of gun deaths in America either way. The grand majority of gun deaths are suicides, and the grand majority of homicide gun deaths are either related to domestic violence or organized crime. But those types of gun deaths are rarely sexy enough to make the news.
Suicides, roughly 20K / yr Homicides, roughly 10K/ yr
The organized crime aspect is highly localized in urban areas. Disarming middle aged white men would knock off approximately what from the homicide number?
Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Wed January 31, 2018 8:53 pm
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Joined: Wed December 12, 2012 10:33 pm Posts: 6932
simple schoolboy wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
The problem I have with focusing on school shootings, no matter how you define them, is that it's such a small portion of gun deaths in America either way. The grand majority of gun deaths are suicides, and the grand majority of homicide gun deaths are either related to domestic violence or organized crime. But those types of gun deaths are rarely sexy enough to make the news.
Suicides, roughly 20K / yr Homicides, roughly 10K/ yr
The organized crime aspect is highly localized in urban areas. Disarming middle aged white men would knock off approximately what from the homicide number?
Perhaps I didn't make my point clear enough. There are many different types of gun deaths and they'll in turn require different kinds of approaches. But most people just care about a very small fraction of gun deaths.
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