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PostPosted: Wed January 17, 2018 7:10 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
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Kennedy won't vote for any bill that includes DACA. Lindsey Graham thinks it's absurd to even pretend that you can get a spending bill done without it. McConnell refuses to negotiate DACA until Trump is honest about what he wants to see done.

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I mean, that's *only* Republicans, fuming about or blame-gaming *other* Republicans...while allowing a government shut down over a refusal to consider legislation so popular it's basically a free win. Only like 18% of voters support deporting dreamers.

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Fuckers just couldn't let 'shithole' go until we got a deal for the DREAMers....

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... y-leaders/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... Court.html


Yeah, if people would have let that slide, he definitely would have swung left on immigration.


Not let it slide, just wait a week or two until we get the deal. He already had swung left from his far-right campaign rhetoric, he called for a "bill of love" (whatever that means), but he is someone who works not on well thought out plans but purely on what his fragile ego says at any moment... so antagonizing him in the middle of negotiations was not the best plan.

https://www.vox.com/2018/1/11/16880360/immigration-congress-bill-daca-trump


He had changed his mind about DACA and immigration before that Thursday meeting. Like Graham said, "something happened between 10:00 AM when Trump talked to Durbin and 12:00 PM when they met at the White House." That's all before "shithouse". You continually give this President too much credit. He is a puppet, played the tv, played the people around him, played by liberal leaning Diane Feinstein (if only for a few minutes :).


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I hate Trump as much as the next guy, and lean left 90% of the time, but this petty harping on the dude’s weight/health/height is straight-up embarrassing. People should stop.

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I hate Trump as much as the next guy, and lean left 90% of the time, but this petty harping on the dude’s weight/health/height is straight-up embarrassing. People should stop.


Why is it ridiculous? He's plain as day a fat fuck.

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I hate Trump as much as the next guy, and lean left 90% of the time, but this petty harping on the dude’s weight/health/height is straight-up embarrassing. People should stop.



In fairness if he and the white hous hadn’t been caught faking a doctors report about it it probably wouldnt be an issue.

But distracting everyone via the most pathetic means possible seems to be working a charm for Him.


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I hate Trump as much as the next guy, and lean left 90% of the time, but this petty harping on the dude’s weight/health/height is straight-up embarrassing. People should stop.


Why is it ridiculous? He's plain as day a fat fuck.

Harping on his weight is one thing. Recognizing the problem embodied by all these professionals who are prepared to lie for him or distort data in order to protect him from the discomfort of an honest evaluation is another.

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Hatfield wrote:
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Fuckers just couldn't let 'shithole' go until we got a deal for the DREAMers....

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... y-leaders/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... Court.html


Yeah, if people would have let that slide, he definitely would have swung left on immigration.


Not let it slide, just wait a week or two until we get the deal. He already had swung left from his far-right campaign rhetoric, he called for a "bill of love" (whatever that means), but he is someone who works not on well thought out plans but purely on what his fragile ego says at any moment... so antagonizing him in the middle of negotiations was not the best plan.

https://www.vox.com/2018/1/11/16880360/immigration-congress-bill-daca-trump


He had changed his mind about DACA and immigration before that Thursday meeting. Like Graham said, "something happened between 10:00 AM when Trump talked to Durbin and 12:00 PM when they met at the White House." That's all before "shithouse". You continually give this President too much credit. He is a puppet, played the tv, played the people around him, played by liberal leaning Diane Feinstein (if only for a few minutes :).


Trump said on Sunday he was open to negotiating a deal. Now, post-shithole, not so much. Hopefully the red team will work something out tomorrow.

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Bi_3 wrote:
Hatfield wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
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Fuckers just couldn't let 'shithole' go until we got a deal for the DREAMers....

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... y-leaders/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... Court.html


Yeah, if people would have let that slide, he definitely would have swung left on immigration.


Not let it slide, just wait a week or two until we get the deal. He already had swung left from his far-right campaign rhetoric, he called for a "bill of love" (whatever that means), but he is someone who works not on well thought out plans but purely on what his fragile ego says at any moment... so antagonizing him in the middle of negotiations was not the best plan.

https://www.vox.com/2018/1/11/16880360/immigration-congress-bill-daca-trump


He had changed his mind about DACA and immigration before that Thursday meeting. Like Graham said, "something happened between 10:00 AM when Trump talked to Durbin and 12:00 PM when they met at the White House." That's all before "shithouse". You continually give this President too much credit. He is a puppet, played the tv, played the people around him, played by liberal leaning Diane Feinstein (if only for a few minutes :).


Trump said on Sunday he was open to negotiating a deal. Now, post-shithole, not so much. Hopefully the red team will work something out tomorrow.

I mean if he says it it's true right

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The Gang of Six bill now has 7 co-sponsors and almost certainly enough votes to pass, but McConnell and Ryan don't want to bring it to a vote because they expect a veto. And also because it's too bipartisan.

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I mean literally the preventing factors in that case are all in GOP leadership

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Wild day for republicans on the floor


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they are the party that poured gasoline on a bonfire when they passed this tax cut and everyone needs to just get the fuck out of the way as soon as they can because the forest is gonna catch on fire and when it does its gonna spread fast and there won't be time to run because it's a dry forest and the animals will get burned and it will be so hot hiding in the creek or the river won't matter and birds will be like 'WTF is this shit' and gay truckers having anonymous roadside sex will hurriedly put their pants back on and get in their trucks and the GOP will be all like 'Bluurrrrr Bluuurrrrr Bluurrrrr' and CNN will be like 'Malakalakalaka laka laka laka' and all the while catastrophe is looming and the American people are just twiddling their thumbs by their RVs unaware that the rager is on its way and you can't stop it no you can't because it's so big and so hot and so pulsating and throbbing and destructive and violent and unapologetic and there is NOTHING YOU CAN DO because it's on its way

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It's hilarious that old neocons like Graham still think it's their party.

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Literally only GOP leadership preventing this.

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they are going to be the party that takes it in the ass in november

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McParadigm wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Hatfield wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
B wrote:
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Fuckers just couldn't let 'shithole' go until we got a deal for the DREAMers....

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... y-leaders/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... Court.html


Yeah, if people would have let that slide, he definitely would have swung left on immigration.


Not let it slide, just wait a week or two until we get the deal. He already had swung left from his far-right campaign rhetoric, he called for a "bill of love" (whatever that means), but he is someone who works not on well thought out plans but purely on what his fragile ego says at any moment... so antagonizing him in the middle of negotiations was not the best plan.

https://www.vox.com/2018/1/11/16880360/immigration-congress-bill-daca-trump


He had changed his mind about DACA and immigration before that Thursday meeting. Like Graham said, "something happened between 10:00 AM when Trump talked to Durbin and 12:00 PM when they met at the White House." That's all before "shithouse". You continually give this President too much credit. He is a puppet, played the tv, played the people around him, played by liberal leaning Diane Feinstein (if only for a few minutes :).


Trump said on Sunday he was open to negotiating a deal. Now, post-shithole, not so much. Hopefully the red team will work something out tomorrow.

I mean if he says it it's true right

The president is literally tweeting opposition to the only proposal that has a chance of passing in time, largely developed by his own party, because it includes funding for a program that everybody wants funded.

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To be clear, without CHIP funding there are no Democrat votes. It's the primary concession they won in negotiations. A lot of the harder-line Republicans don't want to see a CR at all, so Donald Trump is making demands that greatly increase the chance of a shut down. Just him. Nobody else. Just the great deal maker.

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