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Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Sat January 06, 2018 9:24 pm
tl;dr
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 6:06 pm Posts: 8529
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
Listening to the hi-res version right now...I can see what others have been saying about the sound quality. It sounds like a straight desk mix to me, maybe mixed to cassette because I think I can hear quite a bit of noise reduction between songs. Maybe it's the nature of the multi-track recording, but it's very odd-sounding. It might also explain why they don't have the whole show, because maybe the mixing desk guy forgot to switch tapes? Or maybe the other cassette/DAT is missing? I suppose it's also possible that the broadcast bootleg is a mono reduction of this, which would also explain the similarities people are hearing. The whole thing is just weird.
Still worth the coin if you own the original Red Robin bootleg, would you say? I have a $100 gift card from Christmas burning a hole in my pocket, and I have a few jazz box sets I want, but my heart keeps pointing me to this, loath though I am to give 10C any more of my money.
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Sat January 06, 2018 10:29 pm
Future Drummer
Joined: Sat January 05, 2013 9:37 am Posts: 2809
Kevin Davis wrote:
Still worth the coin if you own the original Red Robin bootleg, would you say?
The main set is now in stereo, so yes.
If someone could determine the absolute best source for the mono broadcast, the encore could potentially be upgraded from whatever the fuck MP3 source Pearl Jam used, and tacked onto everyone's copy to replace the official version. Since it looks like a real stereo release will never happen....
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Sat January 06, 2018 11:13 pm
10Club Complaint Department
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 9:38 pm Posts: 15103
Kevin Davis wrote:
Still worth the coin if you own the original Red Robin bootleg, would you say?
Absolutely!
Encore aside (which I’ll never bother listening to), the sound quality is on par with the other official releases. I think it sounds great, a significant upgrade over any previous version.
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Sun January 07, 2018 12:58 am
tl;dr
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 6:06 pm Posts: 8529
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
If someone could determine the absolute best source for the mono broadcast, the encore could potentially be upgraded from whatever the fuck MP3 source Pearl Jam used, and tacked onto everyone's copy to replace the official version. Since it looks like a real stereo release will never happen....
I've got the silvers of the original 3CD set (with the "Live at Leeds" packaging) if a compare/contrast ever needs to happen
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Sun January 07, 2018 1:08 am
I Have A Third Nipple
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 7:41 am Posts: 19720 Location: Cumberland, RI
Kevin Davis wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
Listening to the hi-res version right now...I can see what others have been saying about the sound quality. It sounds like a straight desk mix to me, maybe mixed to cassette because I think I can hear quite a bit of noise reduction between songs. Maybe it's the nature of the multi-track recording, but it's very odd-sounding. It might also explain why they don't have the whole show, because maybe the mixing desk guy forgot to switch tapes? Or maybe the other cassette/DAT is missing? I suppose it's also possible that the broadcast bootleg is a mono reduction of this, which would also explain the similarities people are hearing. The whole thing is just weird.
Still worth the coin if you own the original Red Robin bootleg, would you say? I have a $100 gift card from Christmas burning a hole in my pocket, and I have a few jazz box sets I want, but my heart keeps pointing me to this, loath though I am to give 10C any more of my money.
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Tue January 09, 2018 9:09 pm
Yeah Yeah Yeah
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:57 pm Posts: 80
the fact that Nugs doesn't give you the encore download with the CD purchase is ridiculous. When this first went up for sale the disclaimer was not there
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Wed January 10, 2018 5:38 am
A Return To Form
Joined: Sun December 03, 2017 5:33 am Posts: 150
tooch wrote:
the fact that Nugs doesn't give you the encore download with the CD purchase is ridiculous. When this first went up for sale the disclaimer was not there
absolutely, these vaults should only be released as complete shows or nothing, what the point of making a so called definitive release when it's incomplete???
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Wed January 10, 2018 5:45 am
A Return To Form
Joined: Mon January 07, 2013 11:09 am Posts: 102
armogi wrote:
tooch wrote:
the fact that Nugs doesn't give you the encore download with the CD purchase is ridiculous. When this first went up for sale the disclaimer was not there
absolutely, these vaults should only be released as complete shows or nothing, what the point of making a so called definitive release when it's incomplete???
So how do you get the encore tracks now or were they only available with the LP?
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Wed January 10, 2018 5:56 am
10Club Complaint Department
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 9:38 pm Posts: 15103
armogi wrote:
tooch wrote:
the fact that Nugs doesn't give you the encore download with the CD purchase is ridiculous. When this first went up for sale the disclaimer was not there
absolutely, these vaults should only be released as complete shows or nothing, what the point of making a so called definitive release when it's incomplete???
It’s not as though they’re making an arbitrary choice to omit songs from these releases. It’s pretty clear that they have very few, maybe even barely any, complete shows in the archives; and why would they? They weren’t recording shows in the mid 90s with the intention of them being released as full-length live albums, it’s fortunate that they (or Brett) had the foresight to multitrack record any of this stuff at all.
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Wed January 10, 2018 8:22 pm
Troglodyte
Joined: Wed December 19, 2012 9:53 pm Posts: 22498 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA
rimb wrote:
armogi wrote:
tooch wrote:
the fact that Nugs doesn't give you the encore download with the CD purchase is ridiculous. When this first went up for sale the disclaimer was not there
absolutely, these vaults should only be released as complete shows or nothing, what the point of making a so called definitive release when it's incomplete???
So how do you get the encore tracks now or were they only available with the LP?
They're in your order history if you ordered from the Ten Club.
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