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tragabigzanda · **Posted:** Thu October 04, 2018 5:13 pm

run2death wrote:

AZ Wilderness has had a couple of "true" Goses that were done through fermentation. They were $9 for 10 oz. pours and were kinda gross.

yeah, i had one fermented gose that was disgusting, strong aromas of cat pee and lemon juice

oasisfan35 · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3362

tragabigzanda wrote:

run2death wrote:

AZ Wilderness has had a couple of "true" Goses that were done through fermentation. They were $9 for 10 oz. pours and were kinda gross.

yeah, i had one fermented gose that was disgusting, strong aromas of cat pee and lemon juice

The gose was still fermented but the souring was done via mixed (or possibly spontaneous) fermentation as opposed to souring in the kettle with Lacto. This method can be fairly dangerous to the equipment depending on the vessel, clearly takes longer and has far more risk but to all that one can be quite rewarded; that said it definitely takes a lot of experience produce a quality product.

tragabigzanda · **Posted:** Thu October 04, 2018 7:23 pm

oasisfan35 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

run2death wrote:

AZ Wilderness has had a couple of "true" Goses that were done through fermentation. They were $9 for 10 oz. pours and were kinda gross.

yeah, i had one fermented gose that was disgusting, strong aromas of cat pee and lemon juice

The gose was still fermented but the souring was done via mixed (or possibly spontaneous) fermentation as opposed to souring in the kettle with Lacto. This method can be fairly dangerous to the equipment depending on the vessel, clearly takes longer and has far more risk but to all that one can be quite rewarded; that said it definitely takes a lot of experience produce a quality product.

omg you know your stuff. Down with R2D, long live oasisfan35!

run2death · **Posted:** Thu October 04, 2018 7:34 pm

Hey! I just drink beer, I don't make it!

oasisfan35 · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3362

tragabigzanda wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

run2death wrote:

AZ Wilderness has had a couple of "true" Goses that were done through fermentation. They were $9 for 10 oz. pours and were kinda gross.

yeah, i had one fermented gose that was disgusting, strong aromas of cat pee and lemon juice

The gose was still fermented but the souring was done via mixed (or possibly spontaneous) fermentation as opposed to souring in the kettle with Lacto. This method can be fairly dangerous to the equipment depending on the vessel, clearly takes longer and has far more risk but to all that one can be quite rewarded; that said it definitely takes a lot of experience produce a quality product.

omg you know your stuff. Down with R2D, long live oasisfan35!

Sours can be quite fantastic, just want to make sure you guys don't shy away due to past experience.

E.H. Ruddock · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 2:48 pm **Posts:** 47159

I've just started getting into sours, taking it slow and learning.

Also, because there are a million "craft" breweries everywhere now, the IPA market has really gotten shitty. Most of these places around here anyway are putting out shit

doug rr · **Posted:** Thu October 04, 2018 8:16 pm

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

I've just started getting into sours, taking it slow and learning.

Also, because there are a million "craft" breweries everywhere now, the IPA market has really gotten shitty. Most of these places around here anyway are putting out shit

i'm glad i quit. a local brewery here just released a def leppard ale

tragabigzanda · **Posted:** Thu October 04, 2018 8:18 pm

doug rr wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

I've just started getting into sours, taking it slow and learning.

Also, because there are a million "craft" breweries everywhere now, the IPA market has really gotten shitty. Most of these places around here anyway are putting out shit

i'm glad i quit. a local brewery here just released a def leppard ale

It's probably just rebranded Home Show Ale

doug rr · **Posted:** Thu October 04, 2018 8:19 pm

tragabigzanda wrote:

doug rr wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

I've just started getting into sours, taking it slow and learning.

Also, because there are a million "craft" breweries everywhere now, the IPA market has really gotten shitty. Most of these places around here anyway are putting out shit

i'm glad i quit. a local brewery here just released a def leppard ale

It's probably just rebranded Home Show Ale

actually it probably is..its actually a seattle beer

tragabigzanda · **Posted:** Thu October 04, 2018 8:26 pm

tragabigzanda · **Posted:** Thu October 04, 2018 8:26 pm

Can anyone compare these two rock and roll ales and see if they're the same?

oasisfan35 · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3362

doug rr wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

doug rr wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

I've just started getting into sours, taking it slow and learning.

Also, because there are a million "craft" breweries everywhere now, the IPA market has really gotten shitty. Most of these places around here anyway are putting out shit

i'm glad i quit. a local brewery here just released a def leppard ale

It's probably just rebranded Home Show Ale

actually it probably is..its actually a seattle beer

Ah the mark of AB-InBev... Space Dust was a mighty fine IPA at one point.

50 Million Feet of Earth... · **Posted:** Fri October 05, 2018 1:10 am

tragabigzanda wrote:

Can anyone compare these two rock and roll ales and see if they're the same?

They're nothing alike. I had them back to back. The PJ beer is a lot lighter in color and way hoppier. The Def Leppard beer is decent though.

96583UP · **Joined:** Sun September 15, 2013 5:50 am **Posts:** 22270

PJ beer more like a 60-second IPA - kind of like the amount of time Ed spend's on his lyrics now

Spoiler: show: bada boom

tragabigzanda · **Posted:** Fri October 05, 2018 2:01 am

50 Million Feet of Earth... wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Can anyone compare these two rock and roll ales and see if they're the same?

They're nothing alike. I had them back to back. The PJ beer is a lot lighter in color and way hoppier. The Def Leppard beer is decent though.

Electromatic · **Joined:** Thu January 03, 2013 6:49 pm **Posts:** 3676

doug rr wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

doug rr wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

I've just started getting into sours, taking it slow and learning.

Also, because there are a million "craft" breweries everywhere now, the IPA market has really gotten shitty. Most of these places around here anyway are putting out shit

i'm glad i quit. a local brewery here just released a def leppard ale

It's probably just rebranded Home Show Ale

actually it probably is..its actually a seattle beer

Not just Pale, English 80's Glam Metal Pale. None More Pale!

"We asked, how pale is pale? We decided this could be no Paler, everything else Pales in comparison."

Orpheus · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 8:08 pm **Posts:** 2874

There is also an Iron Maiden-themed ESB out there, I forget who makes it though.

oasisfan35 · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3362

Orpheus wrote:

There is also an Iron Maiden-themed ESB out there, I forget who makes it though.

Trooper is brewed by Robinsons.

Orpheus · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 8:08 pm **Posts:** 2874

oasisfan35 wrote:

Orpheus wrote:

There is also an Iron Maiden-themed ESB out there, I forget who makes it though.

Trooper is brewed by Robinsons.

That's it, thanks. :thumbsup:

run2death · **Posted:** Sun October 07, 2018 1:05 am

run2death wrote:

This place asked me to take some pictures for free beer.

I declined.

My integrity isn't worth a couple of beers.

This place isn't great. Been twice now. It uses the same recipes from another brewery (SunUp) and re-brands them. They also do what they are calling "European" pours, which means a giant head on their beers. So $6 for 12 oz. pours.
Food was also not great. Waitstaff was decent.
I'm assuming they're getting blasted on social media and I don't want to pile on. They are a 10-minute walk from my house and I'd like to see them learn from their mistakes and get better.
My bartender said they plan on doing their own brews in 6 months when a space opens that they are sharing with another new brewery.
I'll return then.

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