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Let's Actually Eat Meat: A Certified Food Label Thread
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Author:  tragabigzanda [ Fri August 04, 2017 7:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Let's Actually Eat Meat: A Certified Food Label Thread
tragabigzanda wrote:
washing machine wrote:
This is troubling, indeed. I knew it already, or at least strongly suspected it, but hearing it out loud is a real shock to the system. Quite the omnivore's dilemma.

Why is this troubling? You can always go apple picking at an orchard if you want the fresh stuff. If you've been eating the year-old apples all your life and were none the wiser, why is it a problem now? If the quality has held up, and they were produced under good practices, then it shouldn't matter how old they are.

Everyone likes orange juice, but it's pretty tough to grow and orange outside of a few specific climates, you know?
Author:  washing machine [ Fri August 04, 2017 7:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Let's Actually Eat Meat: A Certified Food Label Thread
tragabigzanda wrote:
washing machine wrote:
This is troubling, indeed. I knew it already, or at least strongly suspected it, but hearing it out loud is a real shock to the system. Quite the omnivore's dilemma.

Why is this troubling? You can always go apple picking at an orchard if you want the fresh stuff. If you've been eating the year-old apples all your life and were none the wiser, why is it a problem now? If the quality has held up, and they were produced under good practices, then it shouldn't matter how old they are.

I want to always taste apples from heaven if I can. Is that so much to ask?
Author:  washing machine [ Fri August 04, 2017 8:01 pm ]
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tragabigzanda wrote:
Going back to the OP, here's another great label/set of guidelines for fish. The Monterey Bay Aquarium's Seafood Watch list will tell you when to eat which fish, and where they should be sourced from. They update the list regularly, and as best as I can tell are doing a stellar job:

http://www.seafoodwatch.org/

This bottom page wasn't missed. Added to OP. Thanks kind sir.
Author:  tragabigzanda [ Fri August 04, 2017 8:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Let's Actually Eat Meat: A Certified Food Label Thread
washing machine wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Going back to the OP, here's another great label/set of guidelines for fish. The Monterey Bay Aquarium's Seafood Watch list will tell you when to eat which fish, and where they should be sourced from. They update the list regularly, and as best as I can tell are doing a stellar job:

http://www.seafoodwatch.org/

This bottom page wasn't missed. Added to OP. Thanks kind sir.

:thumbsup: Did you also see my Certified Humane post? I'm just firing 'em off while I scarf this fatoush wrap.
Author:  washing machine [ Fri August 04, 2017 8:05 pm ]
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Yep. Added that too.

Speaking of fish, I love when I see bycatch on the menu. I worked with a fishmonger turned chef in the past who pretty much put several species of fish on the local restaurant map thanks to his preaching of the gospel of bycatch. Everything I google about bycatch comes with stern warnings about how unethical this is, but it seems like a great way to waste less when fishing and guarantee freshness for buyers.
Author:  tragabigzanda [ Fri August 04, 2017 8:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Let's Actually Eat Meat: A Certified Food Label Thread
washing machine wrote:
Yep. Added that too.

Speaking of fish, I love when I see bycatch on the menu. I worked with a fishmonger turned chef in the past who pretty much put several species of fish on the local restaurant map thanks to his preaching of the gospel of bycatch. Everything I google about bycatch comes with stern warnings about how unethical this is, but it seems like a great way to waste less when fishing and guarantee freshness for buyers.

CSFs (Community Supported Fisheries) are even better. Like with a CSA, buy purchasing our share ahead of time, the fishermen are able to make an informed decision about what haul they'll keep on their boat. In fisheries that are managed by a quota system, fishermen are required to report their species and volume when they land; so if a fisherman hauls up 1000 lbs of ocean perch, which doesn't command the same market value as cod, they are likely to toss it back (many of them now dead or seriously stressed) in hopes of landing a more valuable catch. But if they have a bunch of CSF subscribers who have already agreed to pay for whatever fish may come in that week, then the fishermen will say "Welp, I'll keep this perch and give it to the CSF customers." It won't eat into their allotted quota, and they can head to port earlier than had they kept fishing.
Author:  washing machine [ Fri August 04, 2017 8:10 pm ]
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Speaking of fish, you know why they're so healthy?

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They eat fish.
Author:  washing machine [ Fri August 04, 2017 8:17 pm ]
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Trag et al, here's a couple of profiles on bycatch and the chef I was talking about. Great dude.

http://www.texasmonthly.com/food/hookin ... n-bycatch/
https://houston.eater.com/2013/6/28/641 ... in-houston
Author:  washing machine [ Sun August 06, 2017 7:03 pm ]
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Saw these eggs at the grocery store and took them on a test run with breakfast tacos. Fluffy eggs, nice yolk, local. Yet...no certified humane label. Oh dearie.

http://www.kenzhenz.com/

Thanks, Ken.

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Author:  tragabigzanda [ Sun August 06, 2017 7:14 pm ]
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In Kenz defenz, it could be that he's already implementing similar practices but doesn't care to pay for the eco-label -- this is pretty common for small farmers who aren't upstreaming to larger distributors.
Author:  washing machine [ Sun August 06, 2017 7:30 pm ]
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Well, that, and he's a Texan. We don't typically take too kindly to hippie regulations.
Author:  tragabigzanda [ Mon August 07, 2017 1:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Let's Actually Eat Meat: A Certified Food Label Thread
Ha, yeah, my farmer friend in Italy is the same say. He thinks that having to buy an "Organic" label through some regulating authority amounts to collusion and robbery, so he actively avoids it out of a sense of independence.
Author:  washing machine [ Thu July 11, 2019 4:49 pm ]
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After watching the episode of Adam Ruins Everything where he ruins environmentalism, my fears about lack of access to a wide variety of fresh & ethical produce have returned.
Author:  tragabigzanda [ Thu July 11, 2019 4:51 pm ]
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Can one of the lovely mods please merge this thread with the Eco Labels thread?

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12627&hilit=labels
Author:  tragabigzanda [ Thu July 11, 2019 4:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Let's Actually Eat Meat: A Certified Food Label Thread
washing machine wrote:
After watching the episode of Adam Ruins Everything where he ruins environmentalism, my fears about lack of access to a wide variety of fresh & ethical produce have returned.

Can't wait for the day that I can have my own little veggie garden
Author:  washing machine [ Thu July 11, 2019 4:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Let's Actually Eat Meat: A Certified Food Label Thread
tragabigzanda wrote:
Can one of the lovely mods please merge this thread with the Eco Labels thread?

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12627&hilit=labels

Why didn't you just post in this one to begin with? I made it mostly for you!
Author:  washing machine [ Thu July 11, 2019 4:52 pm ]
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tragabigzanda wrote:
Can't wait to dive in later...
Author:  washing machine [ Thu July 11, 2019 4:54 pm ]
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LOL. Trag, your drama with these two threads is nothing new apparently...

viewtopic.php?p=1223589#p1223589
Author:  tragabigzanda [ Thu July 11, 2019 4:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Let's Actually Eat Meat: A Certified Food Label Thread
washing machine wrote:
LOL. Trag, your drama with these two threads is nothing new apparently...

viewtopic.php?p=1223589#p1223589

Look at the top of page 2 in that thread -- I previously requested a merge but it was not honored! I have been a staunch supporter of the RM mods, but my patience is now at an end.
Author:  washing machine [ Thu July 11, 2019 4:59 pm ]
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Yes.
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