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tragabigzanda wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Other than fruit and vegetables, honey is the only natural food that is made without destroying any kind of life! What about milk, you say? A cow has to eat grass to produce milk and grass is living!.
Nah, some sort of larvae die in honey production
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To be clear, as far as my understanding goes, vegans are 100% correct regarding the ethical and environmental evils of the meat industry. As the years have gone on I've become more and more sympathetic to their cause.
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I'm seeing a lot less "vegan" in marketing these days and a lot more "plant-based." Are they different things? I think I'd consider my diet these days "plant-based" but I am not a vegan.
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I think it's because vegan is a word with negative associations (see strat in that other thread a couple weeks ago). This whole word-space is also a couple years away from being further confused by lab-grown meat which some people will consider "vegan", some won't, and definitely isn't plant-based.
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That makes sense. Outside of the negative connotations, I was wondering if maybe it also has something to do with "plant-based" sounding more like an ingredient than a lifestyle/commitment. I can, as a carnivore, stock my shelves with plant-based products and still balance my weekly diet with the occasional chicken or fish.
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Anyway, I had an eye-opening lunch today when I subbed out a raw collard green wrap for sandwich bread.
So far the daily diet has been chia pudding for breakfast, weird collard wrap thing for lunch, and there will be chicken tacos coming up for dinner. You'd call that a plant-based day of eating, right?
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washing machine wrote:
Anyway, I had an eye-opening lunch today when I subbed out a raw collard green wrap for sandwich bread.
So far the daily diet has been chia pudding for breakfast, weird collard wrap thing for lunch, and there will be chicken tacos coming up for dinner. You'd call that a plant-based day of eating, right?
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The Argonaut wrote:
washing machine wrote:
Anyway, I had an eye-opening lunch today when I subbed out a raw collard green wrap for sandwich bread.
So far the daily diet has been chia pudding for breakfast, weird collard wrap thing for lunch, and there will be chicken tacos coming up for dinner. You'd call that a plant-based day of eating, right?
The chicken wouldn't be
Well no shit, skinny boy.
I simply meant that if the majority of one's diet is derived from plants, then you could say that diet is plant based. Therein lies a subtle distinction between plant-based and vegan, maybe?
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Oh, I see. No, I think they basically function as synonyms right now. Maybe the food ingredient vs lifestyle thing you mentioned might be a distinction some people use, but I think they're just synonyms. So a plant-based diet would never use animal ingredients. You could have a plant-based meal, or a plant-based day, or a flexitarian diet, or a plant-heavy diet. But, idk, words are complicated
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Ultimately you're right. Words are hard and how you eat shouldn't matter to anyone but you (or anyone planning a meal with your needs in mind.)
Are you still doing the vegan thing? I'm very curious about how little meat I can challenge myself to eat lately while also not making my household adjust groceries or meal planning on my behalf. Need some no-meat/light-meat recipes that are fun for the whole family.
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Yeah, I'm fully vegan these days. No animal products if I can help it. My favorite recipe website is https://minimalistbaker.com/ It used to be all vegan, but isn't any more. But each recipe is clearclearly labeled and even the meat recipes are not MEAT recipes.
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