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malice wrote:
I loved seeing dr dre now, as a 50 year old man who accomplished so much throughout his career. It's refreshing in the way i find pearl jam frustrating as grown men somehow... I feel like dr dre did what he set out to do and came out the other side as both successful and true to his own personal ethics, where pearl jam came out the other side as successful and complacent about their standards... Or maybe it was just ed who did, but i got a satisfying feeling from watching this set of shows that I'd been looking for in modern day pj, and have been missing. Not sure how else to explain it, and I'm not looking to argue about pearl jam with anyone, just trying to express my thoughts on what makes this such a cool series for me.
This is exactly where I'm at with it, so I totally get what you're saying. I've only watched the first episode so far, but I'm glad HBO is airing this.
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I've enjoyed the first three eps immensely. The way they split between each guy's narrative is so well done, until their paths finally cross and the story becomes two perspectives of the same events and how they changed each man. This really should win some awards, it's been such an enjoyable experience watching it.
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Yeah this is pretty great, I've watched the first 2 episodes. I've been more interested in the Dr. Dre stuff compared to the Jimmy Iovine stuff so far.
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Jammer XCI wrote:
Yeah this is pretty great, I've watched the first 2 episodes. I've been more interested in the Dr. Dre stuff compared to the Jimmy Iovine stuff so far.
I really had no clue the two were so closely linked, so watching them both talk about how it all played out was cool to me from either or both.
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malice wrote:
Jammer XCI wrote:
Yeah this is pretty great, I've watched the first 2 episodes. I've been more interested in the Dr. Dre stuff compared to the Jimmy Iovine stuff so far.
I really had no clue the two were so closely linked, so watching them both talk about how it all played out was cool to me from either or both.
Yeah, I found this to be pretty historic and informative. It was really cool seeing how everything connected.
I loved seeing dr dre now, as a 50 year old man who accomplished so much throughout his career. It's refreshing in the way i find pearl jam frustrating as grown men somehow... I feel like dr dre did what he set out to do and came out the other side as both successful and true to his own personal ethics, where pearl jam came out the other side as successful and complacent about their standards... Or maybe it was just ed who did, but i got a satisfying feeling from watching this set of shows that I'd been looking for in modern day pj, and have been missing. Not sure how else to explain it, and I'm not looking to argue about pearl jam with anyone, just trying to express my thoughts on what makes this such a cool series for me.
On the flipside...
What a fucking time to be alive and be a part of the cultural and artistic revolution that occurred. Pearl Jam was also a part of that.
Im on episode 3 now and i really love how they rae connecting Snoop, Manson, Reznor, and all of these alternative artists that were severaly pushing the boundaries of free speech in the art for the time. The Government freaking out and trying to put a stop to such ridiculously perceived indecencies.....
I was in my early to late teens during this time frame so i probably didnt pick up on the intensity of all of this at the time but geezes.....
Some of this overlaps with pearl jams story just the same. I think that is very cool and also very depressing in that here we are today......
What a lot of these artists did to change the conversation and did push the envelope that may have lead to some sort of social change. And it is also super depressing that possibly because of this - we have elected a dunce who has admitted to sexual assault...
So, fuck you snoop dog, trent reznor, eddie vedder, Marilyn manson, etc....
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What strat said is about the same reaction i had, all this was happening at the same time, and i think there actually was a general sense of excitement as the 90s unfolded. I was in my twenties through most of that time, and throughout i felt like - finally there's something worthwhile going on with my generation, something that felt real to me in a way other cultural events didn't, i guess because it didn't have any lasting effect on me? But this stuff, musically and culturally did, and influenced and continues to influence my perspective on the culture. I guess it can be depressing to look back on it compared to now, but i think this is true for all (or most?) people. We have a romantic bent to our past, we have a cynical view of our present. So whatever, i guess that plays a large part in what i liked about this show, it gives some weight to the truth of those years and how important they turned out to be.
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you're delusional. you are a sad sad person. fuck off. you're mentally ill beyond repair. i don't need your shit. dissapear.
What strat said is about the same reaction i had, all this was happening at the same time, and i think there actually was a general sense of excitement as the 90s unfolded. I was in my twenties through most of that time, and throughout i felt like - finally there's something worthwhile going on with my generation, something that felt real to me in a way other cultural events didn't, i guess because it didn't have any lasting effect on me? But this stuff, musically and culturally did, and influenced and continues to influence my perspective on the culture. I guess it can be depressing to look back on it compared to now, but i think this is true for all (or most?) people. We have a romantic bent to our past, we have a cynical view of our present. So whatever, i guess that plays a large part in what i liked about this show, it gives some weight to the truth of those years and how important they turned out to be.
Yeah man, when music history is executed correctly like this, it's all kinds of awesome.
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Just watched E1 last night. This is mostly very good, but I wish they had focused on the larger Interscope family more, rather than Dre and Iovine. Also, Jimmy Iovine looked like hell when he was starting out in the studio! and Bruce Springsteen annoys me to no end.
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