Home Theater Discussion

[E.H. Ruddock]

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[Strat]

Bump

[E.H. Ruddock]

I just moved some of the discussion from the blade runner thread to this thread, team.

[E.H. Ruddock]

A 4K TV really highlights how shitty the compression is for cable.

Oh yeah. It's garbage.

I dont think you are appletv, but how does it handle these streaming devices and services? Way better?

We got a TLC Roku 4K HD about a month ago, and it really just depends on the ISP throttling. Some nights HD content looks fantastic; others you can see a lot of chunky pixelation in the darker colors of the screen.

In my experiences it really depends on the specific app and how you are playing it. Some networks/providers care more about picture quality while others may favor certain devices (Android vs. Apple vs. Roku vs PS4, etc.). WatchESPN is consistently pretty shitty though.

What's your experience with gaming? BF1 is the only game I have that tells me I'm playing in HDR, but I'll be damned if I can see much of a difference when I turn the HDR off. I *can* notice it more if I have Chromatic Aberration and Film Grain effect turned on in the game's video options, but I leave those effects off, and am otherwise not seeing much of a difference.

[Monkey_Driven]

A 4K TV really highlights how shitty the compression is for cable.

Oh yeah. It's garbage.

I dont think you are appletv, but how does it handle these streaming devices and services? Way better?

We got a TLC Roku 4K HD about a month ago, and it really just depends on the ISP throttling. Some nights HD content looks fantastic; others you can see a lot of chunky pixelation in the darker colors of the screen.

In my experiences it really depends on the specific app and how you are playing it. Some networks/providers care more about picture quality while others may favor certain devices (Android vs. Apple vs. Roku vs PS4, etc.). WatchESPN is consistently pretty shitty though.

What's your experience with gaming? BF1 is the only game I have that tells me I'm playing in HDR, but I'll be damned if I can see much of a difference when I turn the HDR off. I *can* notice it more if I have Chromatic Aberration and Film Grain effect turned on in the game's video options, but I leave those effects off, and am otherwise not seeing much of a difference.

Some games are better than others. I can't really tell the difference much on BF1. NBA 2k18 and Horizon are stunning with HDR turned on though.

[tragabigzanda]

A 4K TV really highlights how shitty the compression is for cable.

Oh yeah. It's garbage.

I dont think you are appletv, but how does it handle these streaming devices and services? Way better?

We got a TLC Roku 4K HD about a month ago, and it really just depends on the ISP throttling. Some nights HD content looks fantastic; others you can see a lot of chunky pixelation in the darker colors of the screen.

In my experiences it really depends on the specific app and how you are playing it. Some networks/providers care more about picture quality while others may favor certain devices (Android vs. Apple vs. Roku vs PS4, etc.). WatchESPN is consistently pretty shitty though.

What's your experience with gaming? BF1 is the only game I have that tells me I'm playing in HDR, but I'll be damned if I can see much of a difference when I turn the HDR off. I *can* notice it more if I have Chromatic Aberration and Film Grain effect turned on in the game's video options, but I leave those effects off, and am otherwise not seeing much of a difference.

Some games are better than others. I can't really tell the difference much on BF1. NBA 2k18 and Horizon are stunning with HDR turned on though.

Good to know! My plan is to beat MGSV, then I was thinking I would try HZD before Far Cry 5 came out.

[Monkey_Driven]

A 4K TV really highlights how shitty the compression is for cable.

Oh yeah. It's garbage.

I dont think you are appletv, but how does it handle these streaming devices and services? Way better?

We got a TLC Roku 4K HD about a month ago, and it really just depends on the ISP throttling. Some nights HD content looks fantastic; others you can see a lot of chunky pixelation in the darker colors of the screen.

In my experiences it really depends on the specific app and how you are playing it. Some networks/providers care more about picture quality while others may favor certain devices (Android vs. Apple vs. Roku vs PS4, etc.). WatchESPN is consistently pretty shitty though.

What's your experience with gaming? BF1 is the only game I have that tells me I'm playing in HDR, but I'll be damned if I can see much of a difference when I turn the HDR off. I *can* notice it more if I have Chromatic Aberration and Film Grain effect turned on in the game's video options, but I leave those effects off, and am otherwise not seeing much of a difference.

Some games are better than others. I can't really tell the difference much on BF1. NBA 2k18 and Horizon are stunning with HDR turned on though.

Good to know! My plan is to beat MGSV, then I was thinking I would try HZD before Far Cry 5 came out.

I actually liked Horizon quite a bit more than MGSV so you are in for a treat.

[LoathedVermin72]

A 4K TV really highlights how shitty the compression is for cable.

Oh yeah. It's garbage.

I dont think you are appletv, but how does it handle these streaming devices and services? Way better?

Yes. Absolutely. No question.

[CopperTom]

Some cursory searching reveals that there are such things as "high-speed HDMI switches," so I imagine the older one you have probably won't be able to handle the signal.

I looked the other day, but none listed the specific speed. I'll look again when I get home.

Some list 4k compatibility, none list HDR. For now, I'll hook my lone 4K HDR source directly into the TV.

Yeah, I did some digging too, and even some of the 4K ones I found only had a speed of about 10 instead of 18, which I wouldn't trust.

For the record, none of the switches I own could handle 4K / HDR so I need to to run the 4K / HDR sources directly to the TV.

[Jorge]

LV, what kind of internet speed would you need to properly stream 4K content?

I'm finally getting a 4K TV when I come back from my trip in February (moving my current bedroom TV to the living room, and I guess selling off the current living room TV). TV sets are absurdly expensive here due to import taxes so I need to make sure I can support it. Otherwise I just have a very expensive HD TV when I'm not playing 4K blu-rays.

I currently have what's ostensibly a 100MB/s connection, though I guess what I actually get is somewhat lower than that. Is that good enough?

Last edited by Jorge on Sun November 05, 2017 2:45 am, edited 1 time in total.

[LoathedVermin72]

You should be fine with 100mbps. Netflix recommends at least 25mbps for 4K, so I think you'll be okay. Which TV are you thinking of getting? Or have you not looked yet?

[Strat]

I just bought the AppleTV 4k because 1) i love that you can finally download apps and 2) it was all they had.

So now i feel like im losing life by not having a 4K tv.

[Jorge]

You should be fine with 100mbps. Netflix recommends at least 25mbps for 4K, so I think you'll be okay. Which TV are you thinking of getting? Or have you not looked yet?

I haven't really looked yet since I won't be buying 'til next year. I want something that's at least as big as my current one, which is 55", and obviously something with good technical specs re: image quality. I did look for the model you posted in another thread and it costs five thousand dollars here.

[Monkey_Driven]

Just upgraded our Netflix account to 4k. Why did I wait so long?

[tragabigzanda]

Just upgraded our Netflix account to 4k. Why did I wait so long?

Kevin Spacey looks even more guilty in 4K.

[Strat]

Just upgraded our Netflix account to 4k. Why did I wait so long?

How'd you do this?Is this just a setting?

[Strat]

I see that i can switch to "Ultra HD" is that "4k" ?

[Monkey_Driven]

I see that i can switch to "Ultra HD" is that "4k" ?

Yup!

[Strat]

I see that i can switch to "Ultra HD" is that "4k" ?

Yup!

and i need a 4k tv for that to even be worth a damn obviously.

[Monkey_Driven]

I see that i can switch to "Ultra HD" is that "4k" ?

Yup!

and i need a 4k tv for that to even be worth a damn obviously.

Yup. They're getting to be pretty affordable, even for an above average set. Problem is there isn't a ton of content in 4k. Especially for live events or television shows.