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 Post subject: Re: TV: HBO: Insecure
PostPosted: Sat August 26, 2017 2:02 am 
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also, don't get me wrong here, im not proclaiming myself to be chock full o wisdom at 51 either, but to assume wisdom is a natural part of achieving the grand old age of 30, is frankly, retarded

Give me a break malice. I'm not talking about some all-seeing fucking wisdom here. I'm talking about the wisdom to say: oh hey, I love and admire my father and have always wanted a marriage like my parents' marriage. It turns out that my father is not infallible. Instead of wishing that I was never born and forgetting all the joy and love I've experienced throughout the course of my entire life thanks to my parents, I will instead hold prospective partners to a slightly lower and more reasonable standard. I still want to find love and devotion, but I understand that human saints do not exist. I love you Dad. I love you Mom.
It's so simple that it's not even interesting watching someone react the wrong way on TV.

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PostPosted: Sat August 26, 2017 2:04 am 
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But humans rarely process complex emotions that cleanly, Argo.


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 Post subject: Re: TV: HBO: Insecure
PostPosted: Sat August 26, 2017 2:05 am 
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Yes, fine. That doesn't mean it makes good TV. It's too simple an issue. She is not a teenager.

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PostPosted: Sat August 26, 2017 12:58 pm 
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The Argonaut wrote:
malice wrote:
also, don't get me wrong here, im not proclaiming myself to be chock full o wisdom at 51 either, but to assume wisdom is a natural part of achieving the grand old age of 30, is frankly, retarded

Give me a break malice. I'm not talking about some all-seeing fucking wisdom here. I'm talking about the wisdom to say: oh hey, I love and admire my father and have always wanted a marriage like my parents' marriage. It turns out that my father is not infallible. Instead of wishing that I was never born and forgetting all the joy and love I've experienced throughout the course of my entire life thanks to my parents, I will instead hold prospective partners to a slightly lower and more reasonable standard. I still want to find love and devotion, but I understand that human saints do not exist. I love you Dad. I love you Mom.
It's so simple that it's not even interesting watching someone react the wrong way on TV.

Imagine looking up to your dad as a male role model in your life as a girl or as a young woman, especially in black culture where so many women have raised their children without the fathers around, thinking throughout you childhood that while it's accepted that black men either take off or are jailed or whatever and the norm is young girls being the only adult in a household, yet your dad was around and provided stability and security in the family.

Now see yourself as a fairly newly achieved grown woman, finally, and trying to both excel in your life and still find the relationship you saw from your parents, or something that at least allows for a similar sense of unity and security in your life. Then find out, oh, btw, dad's been a piece of shit the whole time, and really not much different from every other pos man youve encountered in your life who has screwed you over...

You cant make blanket assumptions on what's a proper and realistic reaction to that, and to think the only possible acceptable reaction is to be all, oh, well, dad's just a man after all, so hey, no prob that he fucked around on mom, because, you know, it ain't no big deal no how...

Bullshit.

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 Post subject: Re: TV: HBO: Insecure
PostPosted: Sat August 26, 2017 2:24 pm 
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He cheated on her ONE TIME. THIRTY YEARS AGO. ONE TIME.

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The Argonaut wrote:
He cheated on her ONE TIME. THIRTY YEARS AGO. ONE TIME.

Oh, ok, as long as it was only once, then that's fine, none of what i wrote before applies because he only failed miserably as a father and faithful husband once. Also, im under the impression it was one woman, but whatevs, fucking other people after marriage and having kids just once is way more acceptable :roll:

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you're delusional. you are a sad sad person. fuck off. you're mentally ill beyond repair. i don't need your shit. dissapear.

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 Post subject: Re: TV: HBO: Insecure
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At least this thread is getting bumps; maybe others will start watching.


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 Post subject: Re: TV: HBO: Insecure
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Do you even watch this show, malice? Or did you just take offense at my use of the word 'wisdom'?

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 Post subject: Re: TV: HBO: Insecure
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The Argonaut wrote:
Do you even watch this show, malice? Or did you just take offense at my use of the word 'wisdom'?

I dont stay up late enough to watch it, because, you know, old people.

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you're delusional. you are a sad sad person. fuck off. you're mentally ill beyond repair. i don't need your shit. dissapear.

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people change. people stay the same. people are so often disappointing - random PM, person unnamed


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 Post subject: Re: TV: HBO: Insecure
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I watch it, dick

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you're delusional. you are a sad sad person. fuck off. you're mentally ill beyond repair. i don't need your shit. dissapear.

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people change. people stay the same. people are so often disappointing - random PM, person unnamed


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I only asked because your characterization of what happened on the show was completely wrong and seemingly based on nothing---and your only other posts in this thread previous to that one were complaints about my use of the word "wisdom".

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 Post subject: Re: TV: HBO: Insecure
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I'm not sure what show you watched Argo, but I watched the exact same episode as Malice.


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This is my new favorite thread.


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cutuphalfdead wrote:
This is my new favorite thread.

and not just because of the hunky black men amirite

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 Post subject: Re: TV: HBO: Insecure
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Just wanna say that Argo completely mischaracterized this entire argument on Tinychat


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theplatypus wrote:
Just wanna say that Argo completely mischaracterized this entire argument on Tinychat

how terribly relevant

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 Post subject: Re: TV: HBO: Insecure
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I wonder how Argo feels about the ejaculation scene from last night's ep.


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 Post subject: Re: TV: HBO: Insecure
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tragabigzanda wrote:
I wonder how Argo feels about the ejaculation scene from last night's ep.

is sperm vegan?

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you're delusional. you are a sad sad person. fuck off. you're mentally ill beyond repair. i don't need your shit. dissapear.

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malice wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
I wonder how Argo feels about the ejaculation scene from last night's ep.

is sperm vegan?

:haha:


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Yes, if it's given consensually.

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