TV: HBO: Insecure

[tragabigzanda]

This whole season has been terrific. One of the better shows in recent memory.

[jwfocker]

I love it. So good. Very impressed.

[tragabigzanda]

S2 E1 is excellent. I hope some of you guys give this show a shot. The characters are the exact antitheses of everyone in Girls. The entire show is executed so well, and that Issa Rae is one very talented person.

[epilogue]

If you like it, I'll never give it a shot.

[kreng]

Yeah this show is fantastic. Issa Rae's acting seems so effortless and natural.

[jwfocker]

Awesome show. Huge fan.

[tragabigzanda]

This show continues to impress me quite a bit.

[The Argonaut]

I mean, I watch it, but it isn't very special. The two main men in Issa's life, Lawrence and Daniel, are goddamn handsome as hell, though.

[tragabigzanda]

I mean, I watch it, but it isn't very special. The two main men in Issa's life, Lawrence and Daniel, are goddamn handsome as hell, though.

Seriously? It's like the smartest, fly-on-the-wall insight into modern black culture I've seen since early Spike Lee. It challenges every black stereotype I see across other tv&film with a unique effortlessness. It's also funny as hell.

[The Argonaut]

I don't know about all that. All I know is Issa is pretty charming, and her boyfriends are fine as hell.




Her friends are all pretty annoying, and the show does some silly things. Like, the last episode? Molly cries and freaks out and storms off like a little baby when she finds out that her dad cheated on her mom decades ago? DECADES AGO. It's 2017 and you are an adult. I understand why a silly person would react this way, but I don't think it's a concept worth exploring on television.

[tragabigzanda]

Her friends are all pretty annoying, and the show does some silly things. Like, the last episode? Molly cries and freaks out and storms off like a little baby when she finds out that her dad cheated on her mom decades ago? DECADES AGO. It's 2017 and you are an adult. I understand why a silly person would react this way, but I don't think it's a concept worth exploring on television.

I think the unspoken theme is that most men in her father's generation/community were not monogamous, and so she always placed him (and the idea of monogamy) on a pedestal. That's clearly colliding with her feelings for her married childhood friend, so the emotions got the best of her. Why is that not worth exploring? Just because white TV has explored these themes to death, it's still fairly rare to find a black TV show that tackles anything with both honesty and really high quality writing and performances.

[The Argonaut]

It's not that "white TV" already explored this theme. It's that a thirty year old, successful lawyer should have the wisdom and the self-control to not over-react to meaningless news like that. It's not a theme worth exploring.

[tragabigzanda]

It's not that "white TV" already explored this theme. It's that a thirty year old, successful lawyer should have the wisdom and the self-control to not over-react to meaningless news like that. It's not a theme worth exploring.

I'm concerned you're viewing a complex character as something one-dimensional. She's 30 and a successful lawyer, therefore she shouldn't overreact to something when her emotions get the best of her?

[malice]

wisdom at 30, huh?

[tragabigzanda]

wisdom at 30, huh?

Yeah Argo, also this. I'm 36 and can freely admit to generally not knowing what the hell I am doing most of the time.

[malice]

also, don't get me wrong here, im not proclaiming myself to be chock full o wisdom at 51 either, but to assume wisdom is a natural part of achieving the grand old age of 30, is frankly, retarded

[epilogue]

Trag, I love you. But honestly... there's a bit of schadenfreude for me here, seeing you get just a little tiny fraction of a taste of what it felt like for me to read/deal with posts in the GIRLS thread for all those years.

[tragabigzanda]

Well it was two seasons, but yeah I get it. But have you even seen it yet? I think you'd love it.

Also tell us about your trip in the Travel thread?

[epilogue]

I haven't started it yet. But I really want to. I fully expect to live this show. Seems to have all the necessary ingredients.

[doug rr]

we watched the first 2 or 3..meh..