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Post subject: Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Wed July 17, 2019 7:40 pm
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 11:28 pm Posts: 14542 Location: Space City
tragabigzanda wrote:
Are there direct lyrical connection between that book and the SY song?
Yep. Here's a character description of the main character, from Wiki
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Aged 32 during the events of Pattern Recognition, Cayce lives in New York City. Though named by her parents after Edgar Cayce, she pronounces her given name "Case".[4] She is a freelance marketing consultant, a coolhunter with an unusual intuitive sensitivity for branding,[5] manifested primarily in her physical aversion to particular logos and corporate mascots.
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Post subject: Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Wed July 17, 2019 7:53 pm
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 11:28 pm Posts: 14542 Location: Space City
Not the first time SY looked to William Gibson for inspiration, either. There’s one or two references on Daydream Nation as well. Most obviously, The Sprawl, a direct title reference his Sprawl trilogy, beginning with the seminal novel, Neuromancer.
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Post subject: Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Wed July 17, 2019 9:41 pm
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 11:28 pm Posts: 14542 Location: Space City
Mickey wrote:
My absolute favorite sci-fi factlet is that in the 1970s and 80s the American Marxist literary critic Fredric Jameson wrote extensively about science-fiction through his theory on the political efficacy of narrative. One of his most used examples was Philip K. Dick. At some point Dick got word of this and wrote a letter the CIA asking them to get this communist fucker to stop writing about him.
Weird that Jameson was mentioned right before I started talking about William Gibson in this thread. I dove a little bit into the wikipedia page for Pattern Recognition and came across these quotes from him.
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The novel's language is viewed as rife with labeling and product placements.[28] Postmodern theorist Fredric Jameson calls it "a kind of hyped-up name-dropping ... [where] an encyclopaedic familiarity with the fashions ... [creates] class status as a matter of knowing the score rather than of having money and power".[29] He also calls it "postmodern nominalism"[29] in that the names express the new and fashionable.[29]
Post subject: Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Wed July 17, 2019 10:40 pm
Mind Your Tanners
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am Posts: 9712 Location: Tristes Tropiques
God I love Jameson. And he loves sci-fi
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its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
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