Here is the list of the worst people in this whole thing. Brendan's original defense lawyer takes the cake....

Yeah that's a pretty good list. What kind of fucking half cocked law school did Kachinsky graduate from anyway?

I'd rank James Lenk a little higher (worse) though.

Why do people hate Theresa Halbach's brother, Mike, so much?

What did I miss?

Didn't he delete some messages on her voicemail because he had her password?

I thought that was her ex-boyfriend who deleted the messages, no?

Oh wait, yeah

There are theories about him as far as hiding or planting evidence, but I feel you really have to dig deep. I haven't developed my own theories about what may or may not have happened ... I would consider myself a casual viewer of this show (documentary). Bearing in mind I had two newborns distracting me the entire time.

I just didn't see anything readily apparent that Mike Halbach did to make people hate him so much.

I wouldn't say I hated him, but it was frustrating how he was always so insistent on having Dassey/Avery found guilty regardless of what the evidence showed. I understand that it's probably common for family members to feel that way in his situation, and he was probably heavily influenced by his dealings with the police and the prosecution, but it was really frustrating to watch. Things like:

"If you just watch the confessions, there's out case."
"Have you seen the video?"
"No."

I'm sure he genuinely believed that Dassey/Avery were guilty, so the frustration should probably be aimed at the people who convinced him that they were, but it was still hard to hear him say that kind of stuff. And, while I don't suspect they had anything to do with the actual murder, the whole cell phone thing and searching the property without following proper procedures sure make him and the ex-boyfriend look awfully sketchy.

I'm not ready to say that boyfriend wasn't involved.

My wife's reaction to the first episode, "Man, that ugly tree had a lot of branches."

Same.

But I would like to believe the brother wasn't involved.

I kind of felt that way at first, but ultimately I think he was just kind of being used by the police. The phone thing is pretty creepy though, and completely inexplicable.

Exactly. Which is why I'm not ready to let him off the hook just yet. I'm not convinced he DID do it, either. But until there's a real explanation for the phone call business, he has to remain in the conversation, I think.

Yeah, SOMEONE did it. It was either him or the cops, right? Wasnt there something strange about the way he reacted to finding out she was missing?(sorry, I watched this thing over a month ago I'm starting to forget details.)

I definitely don't think the cops killed Teresa.

But there were a lot of weird things about the boyfriend's "involvement." Some of which were not discussed or barely touched on in the doc.

I think that's part of what made the whole thing so frustrating: the witnesses for the prosecution were caught lying on the stand so many times, and the jury still decided their case was solid enough to convict.

I worded that poorly, I was talking about the deletion of the voice mails not the actual murder. I dont think the cops did it, I just think they never looked into anyone other than Avery and manipulated and fabricated evidence to point in his direction.

Something was fishy about the jury deliberations.

Oh, gotcha. Yes. I agree. The ex-boyfriend and/or roommate and/or brother deleted the voicemail, absolutely. Maybe the cops did, but my money's on the ex.

Well never know, but it depends on what was on the voice mail. I could see the cops deleting if the voicemail proved that she was alive when she left the salvage yard.