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 Post subject: Re: Starz: Ash vs Evil Dead
PostPosted: Sun November 15, 2015 5:13 pm 
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Ash: If we get this done quickly enough we might have time to stop for churros. And that's not a racist thing. That's just a great dessert.
Pablo: You know I'm not mexican, right?
Ash: That's the spirit!


Okay I need to watch this.

How do i?


have you seen evil dead 2/army of darkness? I don't know if it would be necessary pre-viewing, but it might help.


And it's fantastic.


i love army of darkness. Been years since ive seen it but used to watch it all the time!


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 Post subject: Re: Starz: Ash vs Evil Dead
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Strat wrote:
stip wrote:
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Ash: If we get this done quickly enough we might have time to stop for churros. And that's not a racist thing. That's just a great dessert.
Pablo: You know I'm not mexican, right?
Ash: That's the spirit!


Okay I need to watch this.

How do i?


have you seen evil dead 2/army of darkness? I don't know if it would be necessary pre-viewing, but it might help.


And it's fantastic.


i love army of darkness. Been years since ive seen it but used to watch it all the time!

Have you not seen the first two EDs?

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 Post subject: Re: Starz: Ash vs Evil Dead
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Have you not seen the first two EDs?


You mean the teen angst one followed by the uncomfortable with fame one?

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 Post subject: Re: Starz: Ash vs Evil Dead
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:
Strat wrote:
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Ash: If we get this done quickly enough we might have time to stop for churros. And that's not a racist thing. That's just a great dessert.
Pablo: You know I'm not mexican, right?
Ash: That's the spirit!


Okay I need to watch this.

How do i?


have you seen evil dead 2/army of darkness? I don't know if it would be necessary pre-viewing, but it might help.


And it's fantastic.


i love army of darkness. Been years since ive seen it but used to watch it all the time!

Have you not seen the first two EDs?


Saw the first Evil Dead long ago. Been meaning to watch it again.


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 Post subject: Re: Starz: Ash vs Evil Dead
PostPosted: Sun November 15, 2015 7:23 pm 
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new director for the next two episodes, apparently.

Ash: "Yeah, that’s true, but reading from it again can’t make things any worse. It’s kind of like spilling paint on a painting. It’s ok because there’s already paint on it."

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 Post subject: Re: Starz: Ash vs Evil Dead
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Episode 3 is in for tonight.

Already psyched.

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 Post subject: Re: Starz: Ash vs Evil Dead
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I think episodes 2 and 3 suffered noticeably from Raimi's absence, both in the writing and direction. Perhaps the new director will bring something better to 4 (Michael J. Bassett is an awful director anyway).

Still wishing they had just made Evil Dead 4 at this point. Not that I dislike this or anything.

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 Post subject: Re: Starz: Ash vs Evil Dead
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I don't know how I'd rank them but I've enjoyed each episode immensely. The episodes have gotten a bit shorter after the first one, and I think the tighter time is to the show's benefit.

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 Post subject: Re: Starz: Ash vs Evil Dead
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While I do think that Pablo, Ashley, and the cop are TV filler I could do without, the bigger issue is that it seems as though the other writers/directors are reticent to push the humor as far over-the-top as Raimi does, and Raimi's crazy sense of humor is a HUGE chunk of why I love the ED series (the hugest, really). The first episode got it just right: Ash was a ridiculous dick and the gags were pure slapstick. But in 2 and 3, his character has been much more subdued and - ugh - likable. Subdued and likable is the last thing I want Ash (or this show) to be.

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 Post subject: Re: Starz: Ash vs Evil Dead
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
I think episodes 2 and 3 suffered noticeably from Raimi's absence, both in the writing and direction. Perhaps the new director will bring something better to 4 (Michael J. Bassett is an awful director anyway).

Still wishing they had just made Evil Dead 4 at this point. Not that I dislike this or anything.



Man, there is not going to be a ED 4 so far.

Just deal with it.

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 Post subject: Re: Starz: Ash vs Evil Dead
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I think episodes 2 and 3 suffered noticeably from Raimi's absence, both in the writing and direction. Perhaps the new director will bring something better to 4 (Michael J. Bassett is an awful director anyway).

Still wishing they had just made Evil Dead 4 at this point. Not that I dislike this or anything.



Man, there is not going to be a ED 4 so far.

Just deal with it.

I know that, I'm just saying I wish they would have made the movie instead of the series if this is what the show is gonna be. But it's still early.

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 Post subject: Re: Starz: Ash vs Evil Dead
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
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I think episodes 2 and 3 suffered noticeably from Raimi's absence, both in the writing and direction. Perhaps the new director will bring something better to 4 (Michael J. Bassett is an awful director anyway).

Still wishing they had just made Evil Dead 4 at this point. Not that I dislike this or anything.



Man, there is not going to be a ED 4 so far.

Just deal with it.

I know that, I'm just saying I wish they would have made the movie instead of the series if this is what the show is gonna be. But it's still early.


I know friend, i know.

we all want another EV movie, and we might get one if the series is a hit ya know?

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 Post subject: Re: Starz: Ash vs Evil Dead
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VinylGuy wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
I think episodes 2 and 3 suffered noticeably from Raimi's absence, both in the writing and direction. Perhaps the new director will bring something better to 4 (Michael J. Bassett is an awful director anyway).

Still wishing they had just made Evil Dead 4 at this point. Not that I dislike this or anything.



Man, there is not going to be a ED 4 so far.

Just deal with it.

I know that, I'm just saying I wish they would have made the movie instead of the series if this is what the show is gonna be. But it's still early.


I know friend, i know.

we all want another EV movie, and we might get one if the series is a hit ya know?

I'm just really worried the non-Raimi writers don't get how to characterize Ash. Making him likable is the biggest mistake you could make. He should be an unlikable asshole. A joke. A schlub. A dummy who just happens to be good at killing deadites. I want to see more of the idiot who drunkenly summoned evil spirits to impress a woman, the jerk who talked an old woman into cleaning his trailer, the buffoon who made up heroic sob stories to get laid, the curmudgeon who told people cheering for him to "Get the fuck out of my face," the dolt who couldn't even be bothered to remember three words to save the world, you know?

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 Post subject: Re: Starz: Ash vs Evil Dead
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
I think episodes 2 and 3 suffered noticeably from Raimi's absence, both in the writing and direction. Perhaps the new director will bring something better to 4 (Michael J. Bassett is an awful director anyway).

Still wishing they had just made Evil Dead 4 at this point. Not that I dislike this or anything.



Man, there is not going to be a ED 4 so far.

Just deal with it.

I know that, I'm just saying I wish they would have made the movie instead of the series if this is what the show is gonna be. But it's still early.


I know friend, i know.

we all want another EV movie, and we might get one if the series is a hit ya know?

I'm just really worried the non-Raimi writers don't get how to characterize Ash. Making him likable is the biggest mistake you could make. He should be an unlikable asshole. A joke. A schlub. A dummy who just happens to be good at killing deadites. I want to see more of the idiot who drunkenly summoned evil spirits to impress a woman, the jerk who talked an old woman into cleaning his trailer, the buffoon who made up heroic sob stories to get laid, the curmudgeon who told people cheering for him to "Get the fuck out of my face," the dolt who couldn't even be bothered to remember three words to save the world, you know?


He is still there. After all he punched that woman on her in chap 2 and burided the jewish couple with crosses.

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 Post subject: Re: Starz: Ash vs Evil Dead
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the guy who comforts a girl who just watched her mother murder her father by telling her that 'you remind me of a young me' isn't assholeish enough.

You're right it is less over the top, but I've personally found that this has largely enhanced the delivery of the material.

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the guy who comforts a girl who just watched her mother murder her father by telling her that 'you remind me of a young me' isn't assholeish enough.

Yes.

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You're right it is less over the top, but I've personally found that this has largely enhanced the delivery of the material.

This is fair. We just have different tonal preferences with this, I think. Out of curiosity, what is your favorite ED movie?

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 Post subject: Re: Starz: Ash vs Evil Dead
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Army of darkness by far.

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 Post subject: Re: Starz: Ash vs Evil Dead
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Yours?

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 Post subject: Re: Starz: Ash vs Evil Dead
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Same.

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 Post subject: Re: Starz: Ash vs Evil Dead
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AoD didn't age super well for me the last time I saw it, so the way this show has kept the spirit and slightly toned down the volume may just speak to me

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