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All the reviews of this movie - even though they're mostly positive - seem to be missing the point. Everyone is talking about merely the "immorality of media" element; even my boy Armond White reduced it to that, dismissing it as a recycling of Network (though, really, Medium Cool or even Cannibal Holocaust would be more apt comparisons). That's part of its satire and commentary, of course, but not the ultimate point. What this movie is REALLY about is capitalism. It's about what capitalism teaches if adopted as a moral system - this is why we get so much material with Gyllenhaal's character spewing new-age business mantras and whatnot. And its commentary on the subject is savagely effective; even as a devout capitalist (who has often defended capitalism as the only moral economic system when debating the subject with my socialist-leaning best friend), Dan Gilroy had me second-guessing myself.
All the reviews of this movie - even though they're mostly positive - seem to be missing the point. Everyone is talking about merely the "immorality of media" element; even my boy Armond White reduced it to that, dismissing it as a recycling of Network (though, really, Medium Cool or even Cannibal Holocaust would be more apt comparisons). That's part of its satire and commentary, of course, but not the ultimate point. What this movie is REALLY about is capitalism. It's about what capitalism teaches if adopted as a moral system - this is why we get so much material with Gyllenhaal's character spewing new-age business mantras and whatnot. And its commentary on the subject is savagely effective; even as a devout capitalist (who has often defended capitalism as the only moral economic system when debating the subject with my socialist-leaning best friend), Dan Gilroy had me second-guessing myself.
You nailed it, man.
Great movie. Great performance from Gyllenhaal. Loved every second of it.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
All the reviews of this movie - even though they're mostly positive - seem to be missing the point. Everyone is talking about merely the "immorality of media" element; even my boy Armond White reduced it to that, dismissing it as a recycling of Network (though, really, Medium Cool or even Cannibal Holocaust would be more apt comparisons). That's part of its satire and commentary, of course, but not the ultimate point. What this movie is REALLY about is capitalism. It's about what capitalism teaches if adopted as a moral system - this is why we get so much material with Gyllenhaal's character spewing new-age business mantras and whatnot. And its commentary on the subject is savagely effective; even as a devout capitalist (who has often defended capitalism as the only moral economic system when debating the subject with my socialist-leaning best friend), Dan Gilroy had me second-guessing myself.
So you're saying it has a similar theme as Killing Them Softly? Interesting.
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contamination wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
All the reviews of this movie - even though they're mostly positive - seem to be missing the point. Everyone is talking about merely the "immorality of media" element; even my boy Armond White reduced it to that, dismissing it as a recycling of Network (though, really, Medium Cool or even Cannibal Holocaust would be more apt comparisons). That's part of its satire and commentary, of course, but not the ultimate point. What this movie is REALLY about is capitalism. It's about what capitalism teaches if adopted as a moral system - this is why we get so much material with Gyllenhaal's character spewing new-age business mantras and whatnot. And its commentary on the subject is savagely effective; even as a devout capitalist (who has often defended capitalism as the only moral economic system when debating the subject with my socialist-leaning best friend), Dan Gilroy had me second-guessing myself.
So you're saying it has a similar theme as Killing Them Softly? Interesting.
likes rhythmic things that butt up against each other
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
contamination wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
All the reviews of this movie - even though they're mostly positive - seem to be missing the point. Everyone is talking about merely the "immorality of media" element; even my boy Armond White reduced it to that, dismissing it as a recycling of Network (though, really, Medium Cool or even Cannibal Holocaust would be more apt comparisons). That's part of its satire and commentary, of course, but not the ultimate point. What this movie is REALLY about is capitalism. It's about what capitalism teaches if adopted as a moral system - this is why we get so much material with Gyllenhaal's character spewing new-age business mantras and whatnot. And its commentary on the subject is savagely effective; even as a devout capitalist (who has often defended capitalism as the only moral economic system when debating the subject with my socialist-leaning best friend), Dan Gilroy had me second-guessing myself.
So you're saying it has a similar theme as Killing Them Softly? Interesting.
Except it's not fucking stupid in this case.
I did love The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford though.
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contamination wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
contamination wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
All the reviews of this movie - even though they're mostly positive - seem to be missing the point. Everyone is talking about merely the "immorality of media" element; even my boy Armond White reduced it to that, dismissing it as a recycling of Network (though, really, Medium Cool or even Cannibal Holocaust would be more apt comparisons). That's part of its satire and commentary, of course, but not the ultimate point. What this movie is REALLY about is capitalism. It's about what capitalism teaches if adopted as a moral system - this is why we get so much material with Gyllenhaal's character spewing new-age business mantras and whatnot. And its commentary on the subject is savagely effective; even as a devout capitalist (who has often defended capitalism as the only moral economic system when debating the subject with my socialist-leaning best friend), Dan Gilroy had me second-guessing myself.
So you're saying it has a similar theme as Killing Them Softly? Interesting.
Except it's not fucking stupid in this case.
I did love The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford though.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
All the reviews of this movie - even though they're mostly positive - seem to be missing the point. Everyone is talking about merely the "immorality of media" element; even my boy Armond White reduced it to that, dismissing it as a recycling of Network (though, really, Medium Cool or even Cannibal Holocaust would be more apt comparisons). That's part of its satire and commentary, of course, but not the ultimate point. What this movie is REALLY about is capitalism. It's about what capitalism teaches if adopted as a moral system - this is why we get so much material with Gyllenhaal's character spewing new-age business mantras and whatnot. And its commentary on the subject is savagely effective; even as a devout capitalist (who has often defended capitalism as the only moral economic system when debating the subject with my socialist-leaning best friend), Dan Gilroy had me second-guessing myself.
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bune wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
All the reviews of this movie - even though they're mostly positive - seem to be missing the point. Everyone is talking about merely the "immorality of media" element; even my boy Armond White reduced it to that, dismissing it as a recycling of Network (though, really, Medium Cool or even Cannibal Holocaust would be more apt comparisons). That's part of its satire and commentary, of course, but not the ultimate point. What this movie is REALLY about is capitalism. It's about what capitalism teaches if adopted as a moral system - this is why we get so much material with Gyllenhaal's character spewing new-age business mantras and whatnot. And its commentary on the subject is savagely effective; even as a devout capitalist (who has often defended capitalism as the only moral economic system when debating the subject with my socialist-leaning best friend), Dan Gilroy had me second-guessing myself.
ಠ_ಠ
What.
Armond White is my favorite film critic of all time. Really, one of my favorite writers of all time. I've gotten more insight and perspective from his work than from maybe any other writer.
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