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 Post subject: Re: List Your Top 10 Favorite Horror Movies
PostPosted: Mon September 28, 2015 3:31 pm 
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Movies can be scary or have secondary horror elements without being horror movies. But whatever, I guess it doesn't really matter.


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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
But whatever, I guess it doesn't really matter.

Who are you and what have you done with LV?

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 Post subject: Re: List Your Top 10 Favorite Horror Movies
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Genre discussions are pretty pedantic and worthless in the long run. It bugs me, but it's not worth the effort.

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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Movies can be scary or have secondary horror elements without being horror movies. But whatever, I guess it doesn't really matter.


It matters to me a lot right now, only because I'm stuck in a hotel room in the middle of nowhere while my wife attends a conference...

I subscribe to the "Seven Basic Plots" outlook on stories (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seven ... he_Monster), and everything I listed fits under the "Man vs. Monster" motif just as easily as the other films mentioned in this thread. And after the kidnapping/assault I mentioned previously, films like Saw/Hostel/etc are blatantly gratuitous and extremely upsetting to me -- which is NOT the same as scary. Watching that librarian in Ghostbusters push her books around while the theramin score sets the mood, only to have the ghost jump out, THAT is scary to me. Watching someone suffer at the hands of a demented killer mostly just makes me really sad.


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Yeah, but what you find scary personally does not define what the genre of horror is or isn't.

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in no particular order

the shining (this may be the only clear #1 for me)
poltergeist
Halloween
Friday the 13th
Friday the 13th II (only because i screamed so loud we had to leave the theater in the first 5 minutes)
Scanners
Grizzly
Exorcist
The Ammityville Horror
The Omen

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 Post subject: Re: List Your Top 10 Favorite Horror Movies
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Yeah, but what you find scary personally does not define what the genre of horror is or isn't.


Eh, to an extent. The 40 Year Old Virgin might scare somebody somewhere, but I agree that it couldn't be counted as a horror film. I believe the genre classification ultimately lies in the intent, and every film I listed has elements that were designed to scare (even if juxtaposed with other elements that were intended to provoke laughter). Ghostbusters would most likely sit on the comedy shelf at a video store, but so what? Is Chinatown a drama or a mystery? Is Dazed and Confused a comedy or a drama? I like films that defy easy categorization, and "blood=horror, laugher≠horror" is an oversimplification I can't get behind.


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Horror fiction, horror literature and also horror fantasy are genres of literature, which are intended to, or have the capacity to frighten, scare, or startle their readers or viewers by inducing feelings of horror and terror.

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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Oh man, I love all the kid-swearing in Monster Squad.



I don't mind swearing just the whole being gay as a negative. My kid could be gay for all I know.


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tragabigzanda wrote:
"blood=horror, laugher≠horror" is an oversimplification I can't get behind.

I never said this.

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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Oh man, I love all the kid-swearing in Monster Squad.

I don't mind swearing just the whole being gay as a negative. My kid could be gay for all I know.

I get what you're saying. I just look at it as an accurate depiction of kids in the '80s (and a lot of kids now).

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tragabigzanda wrote:
I like films that defy easy categorization, and "blood=horror, laugher≠horror" is an oversimplification I can't get behind.

Yes, because that's clearly what he was saying. Ugh.


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sorry, but laughter does not equal horror.

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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
bada wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Oh man, I love all the kid-swearing in Monster Squad.

I don't mind swearing just the whole being gay as a negative. My kid could be gay for all I know.

I get what you're saying. I just look at it as an accurate depiction of kids in the '80s (and a lot of kids now).


Oh for sure that stuff came out of my mouth on a regular basis back then. I watched that movie a bunch with my parents when it came out nobody blinked at the language.


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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
sorry, but laughter does not equal horror.



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bada wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
sorry, but laughter does not equal horror.



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I retract my statement

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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
bada wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
sorry, but laughter does not equal horror.



You haven't seen me naked.

I retract my statement

this was such a great exchange

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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
sorry, but laughter does not equal horror.


At what point? Does one single laugh negate horror classification? Or would that require multiple laughs? LV listed The Shining, Devil's Rejects, and Cannibal Holocaust in his top ten, all films that have moments that make me laugh.

In Devil' Rejects, when he says "I'm gonna have to be taking your car today, see I have top-secret clown business that supercedes your plans...", if I say "Ha," is it still a horror film? What if I say "Ha ha ha ha ha!" Still horror?

At this point, I really have to stress that I'm trapped in a hotel room with too much time on my hands.


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I think Ruddo was joking, trag.

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