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McParadigm wrote:I am watching The Favorite and every time I have to pause it, it looks like an album from the 70’s that I really need to hear.
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Sat March 09, 2019 2:57 pm
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I keep hearing people talk about - particularly in superhero movies - how diverse representation is important because kids need role models they can identify with.
I have a question though: when you were a kid, did you look to movies for role models?
This whole idea of aspirational cinema seems so alien to me. My relationship with movies as a kid was definitely not like people are suggesting with this narrative. I had people I looked up to in real life, but movie characters were just that to me - characters. I didn’t watch Star Wars because I wanted to emulate Luke Skywalker or something.
The whole conversation just seems odd.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:Even back then I guess I didn’t watch movies for characters or story, really. Maybe this is just specific to me?
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Sat March 09, 2019 3:09 pm
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I keep hearing people talk about - particularly in superhero movies - how diverse representation is important because kids need role models they can identify with.
I have a question though: when you were a kid, did you look to movies for role models?
This whole idea of aspirational cinema seems so alien to me. My relationship with movies as a kid was definitely not like people are suggesting with this narrative. I had people I looked up to in real life, but movie characters were just that to me - characters. I didn’t watch Star Wars because I wanted to emulate Luke Skywalker or something.
The whole conversation just seems odd.
Sat March 09, 2019 3:15 pm
VinylGuy wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:I keep hearing people talk about - particularly in superhero movies - how diverse representation is important because kids need role models they can identify with.
I have a question though: when you were a kid, did you look to movies for role models?
This whole idea of aspirational cinema seems so alien to me. My relationship with movies as a kid was definitely not like people are suggesting with this narrative. I had people I looked up to in real life, but movie characters were just that to me - characters. I didn’t watch Star Wars because I wanted to emulate Luke Skywalker or something.
The whole conversation just seems odd.
I agree with you that the role models in movies talk is PC talk at its prime, maybe thats why i love when someone like lets say, Kenny Powers, comes along.
But i also know that its not for me to say that. If i chose or not to be represented in cinema didnt matter because that was happening already..maybe its important for other kids to have women, or asian or black guys doing those roles too. And its ok.
Sat March 09, 2019 3:20 pm
LoathedVermin72 wrote:VinylGuy wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:I keep hearing people talk about - particularly in superhero movies - how diverse representation is important because kids need role models they can identify with.
I have a question though: when you were a kid, did you look to movies for role models?
This whole idea of aspirational cinema seems so alien to me. My relationship with movies as a kid was definitely not like people are suggesting with this narrative. I had people I looked up to in real life, but movie characters were just that to me - characters. I didn’t watch Star Wars because I wanted to emulate Luke Skywalker or something.
The whole conversation just seems odd.
I agree with you that the role models in movies talk is PC talk at its prime, maybe thats why i love when someone like lets say, Kenny Powers, comes along.
But i also know that its not for me to say that. If i chose or not to be represented in cinema didnt matter because that was happening already..maybe its important for other kids to have women, or asian or black guys doing those roles too. And its ok.
Yes, I fully acknowledge that as a straight white guy it’s entirely possible I never looked for representation because it was taken for granted.
But the degree to which representational diversity (across identity lines, not viewpoint lines, mind you) has come to dominate artistic discussion seems wildly out of proportion. I feel like I never hear ANYONE in the culture talking about, you know, the art itself anymore.
Sat March 09, 2019 3:31 pm
VinylGuy wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:VinylGuy wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:I keep hearing people talk about - particularly in superhero movies - how diverse representation is important because kids need role models they can identify with.
I have a question though: when you were a kid, did you look to movies for role models?
This whole idea of aspirational cinema seems so alien to me. My relationship with movies as a kid was definitely not like people are suggesting with this narrative. I had people I looked up to in real life, but movie characters were just that to me - characters. I didn’t watch Star Wars because I wanted to emulate Luke Skywalker or something.
The whole conversation just seems odd.
I agree with you that the role models in movies talk is PC talk at its prime, maybe thats why i love when someone like lets say, Kenny Powers, comes along.
But i also know that its not for me to say that. If i chose or not to be represented in cinema didnt matter because that was happening already..maybe its important for other kids to have women, or asian or black guys doing those roles too. And its ok.
Yes, I fully acknowledge that as a straight white guy it’s entirely possible I never looked for representation because it was taken for granted.
But the degree to which representational diversity (across identity lines, not viewpoint lines, mind you) has come to dominate artistic discussion seems wildly out of proportion. I feel like I never hear ANYONE in the culture talking about, you know, the art itself anymore.
Oh yeah, i agree.
And its so harmful for the art, because it seems in this age art needs to represent no to provoke.
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