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| Author: | Anders [ Fri August 11, 2017 1:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) |
Who do you think Azor Ahai and The Prince That Was Promised is? http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Azor_Ahai |
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| Author: | malice [ Fri August 11, 2017 2:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) |
Anders wrote: Who do you think Azor Ahai and The Prince That Was Promised is? http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Azor_Ahai I thought they determined the word should be interpreted as prince or princess? |
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| Author: | Anders [ Fri August 11, 2017 2:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) |
malice wrote: Anders wrote: Who do you think Azor Ahai and The Prince That Was Promised is? http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Azor_Ahai I thought they determined the word should be interpreted as prince or princess? In the show Dany's advisors did. I doubt it's Dany. |
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| Author: | malice [ Fri August 11, 2017 2:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) |
Anders wrote: malice wrote: Anders wrote: Who do you think Azor Ahai and The Prince That Was Promised is? http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Azor_Ahai I thought they determined the word should be interpreted as prince or princess? In the show Dany's advisors did. I doubt it's Dany. because... |
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| Author: | Anders [ Fri August 11, 2017 2:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) |
malice wrote: Anders wrote: malice wrote: Anders wrote: Who do you think Azor Ahai and The Prince That Was Promised is? http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Azor_Ahai I thought they determined the word should be interpreted as prince or princess? In the show Dany's advisors did. I doubt it's Dany. because... Do you think it's her? |
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| Author: | malice [ Fri August 11, 2017 3:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) |
Anders wrote: malice wrote: Anders wrote: malice wrote: Anders wrote: Who do you think Azor Ahai and The Prince That Was Promised is? http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Azor_Ahai I thought they determined the word should be interpreted as prince or princess? In the show Dany's advisors did. I doubt it's Dany. because... Do you think it's her? I don't care who it is, honestly, i would like to know why you doubt dany is the prince/princess. |
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| Author: | Anders [ Fri August 11, 2017 3:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) |
Azor Ahai is to be reborn again to challenge the Others. This will occur after a long summer when an evil, cold darkness descends upon the world. It is said that wielding Lightbringer once again, Azor Ahai will stand against the Others, and if he fails, the world fails with him. "There will come a day after a long summer when the stars bleed and the cold breath of darkness falls heavy on the world. In this dread hour a warrior shall draw from the fire a burning sword. And that sword shall be Lightbringer, the Red Sword of Heroes, and he who clasps it shall be Azor Ahai come again, and the darkness shall flee before him." He shall be born again amidst smoke and salt (Dany s1, Jon s5, Jamie s6?) He shall wake dragons out of stone (Dany, there is talk of a dragon under Winterfell as well, and Jon is linked with an ice dragon in the books, Jon could be an awoken "dragon" himself as a Targaryen, this is where Dany has the strongest claim, the quote comes from Melisandre in the books) He shall draw from the fire a burning sword, Lightbringer (Jon Snow has a dream where he fights the Others with a red sword burning in his hand, him and Jamie have Valyrian swords) He is born of the line of Aerys II and Rhaella (Dany, Jon, possibly Jamie if the mad king was his father, which is not impossible since the mad king desired Jamie's mother) His is the song of ice and fire (Jon is both ice and fire, it makes a lot more sense than anything else for that to be about him, but it could also be seen as Jon (ice) with Dany (fire) and possibly Jamie (fire) as well) He is reborn (Dany, Jon, possibly Jamie) Cause the death of a lover (Dany and Jon, quite possibly Jamie in the future) Was born when stars bleed (Dany and Jon, Dany with a red comet, Jon with a bleeding sword that was forged from a falling star) Killed a lion (Lannister?) and his wife Nissa Nissa with his sword (this is probably the part of it that matters least, unless it has something to do with Jamie and Cersei, although both Dany and Jon have had lovers killed near them as mentioned above) GRRM said if he uses a prophecy there must be some surprise involved (sounds least like Dany) The dragon has three heads (so quite possibly three people are involved, perhaps riding the dragons) He works to ally people to fight the others (only Jon so far) |
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| Author: | BurtReynolds [ Fri August 11, 2017 3:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) |
malice wrote: Anders wrote: malice wrote: Anders wrote: malice wrote: Anders wrote: Who do you think Azor Ahai and The Prince That Was Promised is? http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Azor_Ahai I thought they determined the word should be interpreted as prince or princess? In the show Dany's advisors did. I doubt it's Dany. because... Do you think it's her? I don't care who it is, honestly, i would like to know why you doubt dany is the prince/princess. It would be funny if no one was and it was just a silly myth |
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| Author: | Anders [ Fri August 11, 2017 3:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) |
BurtReynolds wrote: malice wrote: Anders wrote: malice wrote: Anders wrote: malice wrote: Anders wrote: Who do you think Azor Ahai and The Prince That Was Promised is? http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Azor_Ahai I thought they determined the word should be interpreted as prince or princess? In the show Dany's advisors did. I doubt it's Dany. because... Do you think it's her? I don't care who it is, honestly, i would like to know why you doubt dany is the prince/princess. It would be funny if no one was and it was just a silly myth There's even a chance of that, but this is at the core of the entire series (books and show). You have the dragons, the white walkers, etc. A lot of things that are very involved in all of this. |
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| Author: | Norris [ Fri August 11, 2017 3:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) |
malice wrote: E.H. Ruddock wrote: wait those weren't white walkers That was jaime and the other first men, duh The Lannisters are of Andal descent, not First Men. Duh. |
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| Author: | Anders [ Fri August 11, 2017 3:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) |
cutuphalfdead wrote: malice wrote: E.H. Ruddock wrote: wait those weren't white walkers That was jaime and the other first men, duh The Lannisters are of Andal descent, not First Men. Duh. Do you think it's possible that Tyrion and/or Jamie/Cersei are children of the mad king? |
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| Author: | Norris [ Fri August 11, 2017 3:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) |
Anders wrote: cutuphalfdead wrote: malice wrote: E.H. Ruddock wrote: wait those weren't white walkers That was jaime and the other first men, duh The Lannisters are of Andal descent, not First Men. Duh. Do you think it's possible that Tyrion and/or Jamie/Cersei are children of the mad king? No. We don't need multiple secret Targaryens. |
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| Author: | Anders [ Fri August 11, 2017 4:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) |
cutuphalfdead wrote: Anders wrote: cutuphalfdead wrote: malice wrote: E.H. Ruddock wrote: wait those weren't white walkers That was jaime and the other first men, duh The Lannisters are of Andal descent, not First Men. Duh. Do you think it's possible that Tyrion and/or Jamie/Cersei are children of the mad king? No. We don't need multiple secret Targaryens. How about the three-headed dragon? Possibly three dragon riders? |
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| Author: | malice [ Fri August 11, 2017 4:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) |
cutuphalfdead wrote: malice wrote: E.H. Ruddock wrote: wait those weren't white walkers That was jaime and the other first men, duh The Lannisters are of Andal descent, not First Men. Duh. pssst, hey pete... that's not jamie in the cave drawings |
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| Author: | Norris [ Fri August 11, 2017 4:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) |
malice wrote: cutuphalfdead wrote: malice wrote: E.H. Ruddock wrote: wait those weren't white walkers That was jaime and the other first men, duh The Lannisters are of Andal descent, not First Men. Duh. pssst, hey pete... that's not jamie in the cave drawings I know, girl. |
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| Author: | malice [ Fri August 11, 2017 4:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) |
Anders wrote: cutuphalfdead wrote: Anders wrote: cutuphalfdead wrote: malice wrote: E.H. Ruddock wrote: wait those weren't white walkers That was jaime and the other first men, duh The Lannisters are of Andal descent, not First Men. Duh. Do you think it's possible that Tyrion and/or Jamie/Cersei are children of the mad king? No. We don't need multiple secret Targaryens. How about the three-headed dragon? Possibly three dragon riders? are there ANY far flung theories you've read about that you don't believe? |
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| Author: | Norris [ Fri August 11, 2017 4:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) |
Anders wrote: cutuphalfdead wrote: Anders wrote: cutuphalfdead wrote: malice wrote: E.H. Ruddock wrote: wait those weren't white walkers That was jaime and the other first men, duh The Lannisters are of Andal descent, not First Men. Duh. Do you think it's possible that Tyrion and/or Jamie/Cersei are children of the mad king? No. We don't need multiple secret Targaryens. How about the three-headed dragon? Possibly three dragon riders? Dany/Jon/
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| Author: | Norris [ Fri August 11, 2017 4:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) |
malice wrote: Anders wrote: cutuphalfdead wrote: Anders wrote: cutuphalfdead wrote: malice wrote: E.H. Ruddock wrote: wait those weren't white walkers That was jaime and the other first men, duh The Lannisters are of Andal descent, not First Men. Duh. Do you think it's possible that Tyrion and/or Jamie/Cersei are children of the mad king? No. We don't need multiple secret Targaryens. How about the three-headed dragon? Possibly three dragon riders? are there ANY far flung theories you've read about that you don't believe? That's not a far flung theory. It's a prophecy taken directly from the text. |
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| Author: | malice [ Fri August 11, 2017 4:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) |
Not to mention, this is the series, not the books. None of these ideas have been introduced at all in the last however many years. It jusr all seems too late in the game and not really made for the tv show |
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| Author: | malice [ Fri August 11, 2017 4:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) |
i don't have a problem with the book info being introduced, when it's relevant to the show but otherwise it just muddies the plot the show has laid out |
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