Books, movies, television...
Tue June 05, 2018 9:33 pm
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I don’t want to root for anyone
I can appreciate this, seriously; it's just not how I watch movies...
Tangentially related, I'm reading
Jorge's great book rec while simultaneously reading the
Cinematic Storytelling book I've been posting about. Jorge's book talks about De Palma's detached camera work, like he's chronicling the suffering of his characters without engaging emotionally. It's interesting, and reading those two books side-by-side is exploding my understanding of film making, and how the camera may/may not heighten the emotional resonance of the character or story...
So, if I'm reading your comment right, does that mean you prefer film making that takes a more objective view of the story?
Tue June 05, 2018 10:16 pm
You're doing it again.
Tue June 05, 2018 10:17 pm
what am i doing
Tue June 05, 2018 10:18 pm
The overly earnest, no sense of humor thing.
Tue June 05, 2018 10:19 pm
fuck you joseph. the decemberists are a bunch of mongoloids and St Vincent's a whore.
Tue June 05, 2018 10:20 pm
Prove it.
Tue June 05, 2018 10:53 pm
tragabigzanda wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:I don’t want to root for anyone
I can appreciate this, seriously; it's just not how I watch movies...
Tangentially related, I'm reading
Jorge's great book rec while simultaneously reading the
Cinematic Storytelling book I've been posting about. Jorge's book talks about De Palma's detached camera work, like he's chronicling the suffering of his characters without engaging emotionally. It's interesting, and reading those two books side-by-side is exploding my understanding of film making, and how the camera may/may not heighten the emotional resonance of the character or story...
So, if I'm reading your comment right, does that mean you prefer film making that takes a more objective view of the story?
Oh my god that theory is so wrong. De Palma is an intensely emotional director. Oh my god no no no
Tue June 05, 2018 10:55 pm
I usually want the dashing rogue to get away with it in the end, even if he's terrible.
I definitely root for characters.
Tue June 05, 2018 10:56 pm
LV agrees with me more than he likes me.
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epilogue on Tue June 05, 2018 10:58 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Tue June 05, 2018 10:56 pm
i've only seen his "establishment approved" flicks: Carrie, Casualties of War, Untouchables, and Mission to Mars. Despite all the colors and fireworks, they do strike me as cold.
Tue June 05, 2018 10:59 pm
I know LV lists it as one of his favorites, but my god Mission to Mars is one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Just horrible in every conceivable way.
Though i suppose its emotional in the same way a soap opera is emotional.
Tue June 05, 2018 11:00 pm
I love De Palma.
Detached? Fuck that.
Tue June 05, 2018 11:28 pm
tragabigzanda wrote:i've only seen his "establishment approved" flicks: Carrie, Casualties of War, Untouchables, and Mission to Mars. Despite all the colors and fireworks, they do strike me as cold.
That is insane. All of these movies have incredibly deep wells of feeling and passion. Mission to Mars is like the warmest, most human movie I’ve ever seen. Oh man. De Palma cold and detached? Oh man. That is just so wrong.
Tue June 05, 2018 11:28 pm
He'll always have a special place in my heart. Dressed To Kill was my first spank material.
Tue June 05, 2018 11:50 pm
LoathedVermin72 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:I don’t want to root for anyone
I can appreciate this, seriously; it's just not how I watch movies...
Tangentially related, I'm reading
Jorge's great book rec while simultaneously reading the
Cinematic Storytelling book I've been posting about. Jorge's book talks about De Palma's detached camera work, like he's chronicling the suffering of his characters without engaging emotionally. It's interesting, and reading those two books side-by-side is exploding my understanding of film making, and how the camera may/may not heighten the emotional resonance of the character or story...
So, if I'm reading your comment right, does that mean you prefer film making that takes a more objective view of the story?
Oh my god that theory is so wrong. De Palma is an intensely emotional director. Oh my god no no no
You should read the book. It's been a long time since I read it and I can't remember the specific part about his camera work, but for a De Palma fan, this is essential reading. His participation is great, and especially his insights in the ten-years-later afterword are very interesting.
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Jorge on Wed June 06, 2018 1:39 am, edited 1 time in total.
Wed June 06, 2018 1:38 am
De Palma is an amazing director and a national treasure. Also, Mission to Mars sucks.
Wed June 06, 2018 1:40 am
I like that it ends in a long boring alien powerpoint presentation.
Wed June 06, 2018 2:37 pm
i halfway watched a large portion of Batman v Superman yesterday on TNT...great film
Wed June 06, 2018 3:47 pm
Guys, the new Jurassic World is really really good.
The trailers didn't excite me at all, it all looked and felt a bit off. Turns out, the stuff on the island barely scratches the surface of the movie. The second half is like a monster horror film, in a great way! Extremely tense stuff, and the characters area lot more three-dimensional this time. Bryce Dallas Howard in particular shows huge improvement and it's easier to actually root for these characters.
This was great stuff.
Wed June 06, 2018 3:53 pm
Seems like this one is super polarizing.
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