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| Author: | B [ Mon November 22, 2021 7:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Wire, Deadwood, Sopranos and West Wing |
dimejinky99 wrote: Breaking Bad can ask my butthurt and is not to be discussed in this thread thanks. Hi guys, new to the thread. What does "ask my butthurt" mean? |
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| Author: | Jorge [ Mon November 22, 2021 7:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Wire, Deadwood, Sopranos and West Wing |
Norris wrote: Watched the Melfi gets raped episode last night. Found it way over the top and unnecessary, like they were trying to be edgy or something. I get wanting to set up the moral dilemma she has to make at the end of the episode, but that could have been done in any number of ways. Like how? |
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| Author: | The Argonaut [ Mon November 22, 2021 8:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Wire, Deadwood, Sopranos and West Wing |
Instead of being raped, perhaps she could have been murdered. |
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| Author: | Norris [ Mon November 22, 2021 8:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Wire, Deadwood, Sopranos and West Wing |
Jorge wrote: Norris wrote: Watched the Melfi gets raped episode last night. Found it way over the top and unnecessary, like they were trying to be edgy or something. I get wanting to set up the moral dilemma she has to make at the end of the episode, but that could have been done in any number of ways. Like how? just a slower build where she realizes that she has the option to ask tony for help fixing something, maybe her son gets in trouble or something, i dont know it didn't need to be this |
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| Author: | tragabigzanda [ Mon November 22, 2021 8:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Wire, Deadwood, Sopranos and West Wing |
Norris wrote: Jorge wrote: Norris wrote: Watched the Melfi gets raped episode last night. Found it way over the top and unnecessary, like they were trying to be edgy or something. I get wanting to set up the moral dilemma she has to make at the end of the episode, but that could have been done in any number of ways. Like how? just a slower build where she realizes that she has the option to ask tony for help fixing something, maybe her son gets in trouble or something, i dont know it didn't need to be this I think it had to be high stakes to really make her consider it. I don't think her son getting busted for truancy would really make her question her ethics. |
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| Author: | tragabigzanda [ Mon November 22, 2021 9:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Wire, Deadwood, Sopranos and West Wing |
| Author: | Norris [ Mon November 22, 2021 9:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Wire, Deadwood, Sopranos and West Wing |
tragabigzanda wrote: Norris wrote: Jorge wrote: Norris wrote: Watched the Melfi gets raped episode last night. Found it way over the top and unnecessary, like they were trying to be edgy or something. I get wanting to set up the moral dilemma she has to make at the end of the episode, but that could have been done in any number of ways. Like how? just a slower build where she realizes that she has the option to ask tony for help fixing something, maybe her son gets in trouble or something, i dont know it didn't need to be this I think it had to be high stakes to really make her consider it. I don't think her son getting busted for truancy would really make her question her ethics. that's why i said it could be done over time, with the pressure ramping up over the course of a season instead of just one big thing in one episode i get the stakes needed to be high, but this was so over the top and out of left field that it felt gratuitous |
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| Author: | Jorge [ Mon November 22, 2021 9:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Wire, Deadwood, Sopranos and West Wing |
I still don't understand what was over the top about it. That there was a rape? Like rapes don't happen in life, let alone in The Sopranos of all shows? It needed to be a visceral ordeal that cut to the core of Melfi's humanity, as well as her relationship with Tony. I think the episode pulls it off really well. But maybe it's time for another rewatch |
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| Author: | tragabigzanda [ Mon November 22, 2021 9:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Wire, Deadwood, Sopranos and West Wing |
chud is making a good case |
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| Author: | The Argonaut [ Mon November 22, 2021 10:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Wire, Deadwood, Sopranos and West Wing |
It might have worked better as a season arc than as a single episode. TV then was much more focused on the single episode. The Sopranos more than any other show broke TV of that tendency, but even The Sopranos in the first couple seasons couldn't escape it entirely. |
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| Author: | Mecca [ Wed November 24, 2021 2:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Wire, Deadwood, Sopranos and West Wing |
Jorge wrote: I still don't understand what was over the top about it. That there was a rape? Like rapes don't happen in life, let alone in The Sopranos of all shows? It needed to be a visceral ordeal that cut to the core of Melfi's humanity, as well as her relationship with Tony. I think the episode pulls it off really well. But maybe it's time for another rewatch I think it also carries a lot of emotional weight because Melfi was one of the few people who could hold power over Tony and she found herself powerless. Watching a depiction of rape should make a person uneasy, though and maybe that’s the core of thinking it could’ve been anything else. |
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| Author: | Norris [ Tue November 30, 2021 2:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Wire, Deadwood, Sopranos and West Wing |
Season 3 is getting very good in the second half, and this show is legit laugh out loud funny at points. The back and forth between AJ and his parents when he didn't know what gutters were was hilarious. |
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| Author: | Jorge [ Tue November 30, 2021 2:46 am ] |
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Yeah, it's an extremely funny show. |
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| Author: | Jorge [ Tue November 30, 2021 2:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Wire, Deadwood, Sopranos and West Wing |
Little Carmine is my favorite character for laughs |
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| Author: | Norris [ Mon January 03, 2022 4:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Wire, Deadwood, Sopranos and West Wing |
The news report of Janice getting arrested at the soccer game is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Maybe she should, Carl. |
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| Author: | Norris [ Mon January 03, 2022 10:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Wire, Deadwood, Sopranos and West Wing |
Finished season 5 last night. It's my favorite so far, they really seem to elevate so many little things about the show this season when it comes to the art of television. The tone, the colors, the symbols, all really round these episodes out more than they had in the past. Some of my favorite parts of the series in terms of the story itself are probably in the back half of seasons 3 and 4, but season 5 is just a beautiful complete work of art and I loved it. Two complaints about season 5. Tony B getting shot in the face by Tony S would have been much more impactful if Tony B hadn't been this season's new guy that Tony had to deal with, and had been with us from the beginning instead. I also didn't like how the New York war was just resolved all of a sudden off screen, that needed more I think. But I'm really nitpicking with these. |
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| Author: | Norris [ Mon January 03, 2022 10:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Wire, Deadwood, Sopranos and West Wing |
The final shot of the season, with Tony emerging from the woods to be let into the house by Carmella. It's the perfect ending to this season, symbolically. It leaves you with the sense that none of this can end well, everyone is too far gone, and probably has been for some time. Carmella let the bear into the house, there's no other way. |
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| Author: | Jorge [ Fri May 20, 2022 3:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Wire, Deadwood, Sopranos and West Wing |
| Author: | CopperTom [ Fri May 20, 2022 11:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Wire, Deadwood, Sopranos and West Wing |
I watched The Sopranos for the first time earlier this year. 6/10. Very disappointed. Season 1 was awful. The last 2 seasons were good. Tony Soprano, a fat, ugly, bald, unintelligent, obnoxious man, is not a sex symbol. |
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| Author: | Jorge [ Fri May 20, 2022 11:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Wire, Deadwood, Sopranos and West Wing |
Oh man, the guy has a huge female following. I don't know any woman who has watched The Sopranos and not come away having a crush on him |
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