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Civil War was really great. I kind of want to get another ticket to go see it again immediately, like this moment, but that's at least in part because the movie got me messed up and I feel weird just in the last few minutes walking around since I left the theatre. It's intense and rather great
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The Argonaut wrote:
Civil War was really great. I kind of want to get another ticket to go see it again immediately, like this moment, but that's at least in part because the movie got me messed up and I feel weird just in the last few minutes walking around since I left the theatre. It's intense and rather great
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The Argonaut wrote:
Civil War was really great. I kind of want to get another ticket to go see it again immediately, like this moment, but that's at least in part because the movie got me messed up and I feel weird just in the last few minutes walking around since I left the theatre. It's intense and rather great
Just saw it. I felt the same way walking out of it. I saw it with a friend and he and i decided we’d talk later about it because some unpacking needed done. It wasn’t what i was expecting at all but in a good way
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Argo, interested to hear more from you on this. The use of silence in this was effective for me. Especially after they realized what had happened after the Jessie Plemons scene
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Lots to unpack here. The one thing I’ll say out of the gate is the reliance on old college/underground radio songs didn’t sit right with me. Everything else hit hard and I need to sort some stuff out, but that one aspect really stuck out to me
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Argo, interested to hear more from you on this. The use of silence in this was effective for me. Especially after they realized what had happened after the Jessie Plemons scene
It's very affecting, really forces focus in a way you can't ignore. I felt the whole thing was really tense and put together so well. All the pieces really fit together and worked for me.
There are maybe a couple moments that are too on the nose or shade into overly dramatic, but that's kind of inevitable and forgivable in a movie like this. I was into the whole thing
It works extremely well as a white knuckle “imagine what this would feel like” sort of movie. That’s in part because of the underlying mechanics like pacing and sound FX, and probably more because the set designs are so effective.
I was surprised at how little of the “backstory” we actually got. You leave with no idea whatsoever as to why CA and TX have tried to secede, and how FL tried to align themselves with the secession; you have no clue why the President is bombing Americans. I get this is entirely the point, to make it so the audience isn’t really given an opportunity to sympathize with one group over the other — and maybe he’s trying demonstrate how dumb our current political divisions really are — but I’m left feeling like the movie was incredibly riveting but not particularly insightful.
Other things: Kirsten Dunst is terrific, and the rest of the cast is good too. But again, their stories seem to never really go beyond the surface explanation of “we’re journalists therefore we maintain an objective eye.”
And this seemed to be in conflict with the musical choices. Playing Suicide and De La Soul are BOLD choices, but they seem to add a sort of self-awareness to these journalists who are otherwise presented as being voices of objectivity. Are they playing Rocket USA because the lyrical themes underscore the cinematic themes? Or because the journalists maintain the same sort of cool detachment found in Suicide’s music? Tough to say, but any time some underground deep cut came on, I was like “wtf?” Like they want me to attach some additional emotion to the characters who are professionally programmed to refrain from showing any emotion at all.
Also, the soldiers were sometimes a little overburdened by the journalists. Granted I’ve never seen combat firsthand, but it seems like a stretch that they’d be on the front lines of the White House breach AND totally willing to give the journalists some quick feedback on where/how to position themselves to get a good shot. Seems like a lot of work!
It was just a brief one where they were driving down a road and "Go Steelers" was written on the overpass, which drew your eye, but then the vehicle moved you over to the hanging bodies. I loved that!
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