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Post subject: Re: House of the Dragon (2022, HBO2theMAX)
Posted: Thu September 22, 2022 9:48 pm
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elliseamos wrote:
So, this illness that Viserys has... he's like falling apart, but lives another decade to cover the time-lapse to Rhaenyra's older self?
Those leeches are doing great!
So ignoring the last page of dimish frustration, what is this illness? Have they explained it at all? His fingers, his arm, his back, his coughing, his bloody nose. Now he collapses.
And he just carries on being king like this? Gross.
Post subject: Re: House of the Dragon (2022, HBO2theMAX)
Posted: Thu September 22, 2022 9:53 pm
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Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14243
elliseamos wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
So, this illness that Viserys has... he's like falling apart, but lives another decade to cover the time-lapse to Rhaenyra's older self?
Those leeches are doing great!
So ignoring the last page of dimish frustration, what is this illness? Have they explained it at all? His fingers, his arm, his back, his coughing, his bloody nose. Now he collapses.
And he just carries on being king like this? Gross.
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Post subject: Re: House of the Dragon (2022, HBO2theMAX)
Posted: Fri September 23, 2022 11:45 am
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Post subject: Re: House of the Dragon (2022, HBO2theMAX)
Posted: Mon September 26, 2022 3:18 am
AnalLog
Joined: Sat January 12, 2013 7:19 pm Posts: 1481 Location: Buffalo, NY
I got over the cast changes quickly BUT I think they’re rushing. Finishing the season with the younger cast would’ve felt right to me although I recognize you need some “big bang” events as punctuation each season that doing so may not have allowed for. Seeing the rift develop between Rhaenyra and Alicent and Daemon and Viserys should feel more tragic than it does—especially when you know where this is all headed if you read the book. These rifts need to serve as the foundation for the rest of the series and the ultimate downfall of the Targaryens. It doesn’t quite work as well if you don’t spend enough time experiencing the “good times” when their bonds were strong.
Vhagar is awesome.
Seems like Larys as master machinator came out of nowhere. Again, not enough time spent developing this.
Seeing Laena die by dragicide should pack more of an emotional punch that it does. Again, not enough time spent getting to know her robs us of that.
Post subject: Re: House of the Dragon (2022, HBO2theMAX)
Posted: Mon September 26, 2022 11:28 am
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Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14243
Ensign9 wrote:
I got over the cast changes quickly BUT I think they’re rushing. Finishing the season with the younger cast would’ve felt right to me although I recognize you need some “big bang” events as punctuation each season that doing so may not have allowed for. Seeing the rift develop between Rhaenyra and Alicent and Daemon and Viserys should feel more tragic than it does—especially when you know where this is all headed if you read the book. These rifts need to serve as the foundation for the rest of the series and the ultimate downfall of the Targaryens. It doesn’t quite work as well if you don’t spend enough time experiencing the “good times” when their bonds were strong.
Vhagar is awesome.
Seems like Larys as master machinator came out of nowhere. Again, not enough time spent developing this.
Seeing Laena die by dragicide should pack more of an emotional punch that it does. Again, not enough time spent getting to know her robs us of that.
I've always loved your write-ups going back to Lost, and I'm glad you are keeping up with this.
Totally agree on all points except the younger cast bit. I was really glad to get Addison Rhae off the screen she was just irritating. The time jump though necessary at some point, my wife was like 'why are they still so upset about things that happened a decade ago, hasn't anything happened since?', they kind lost that world building. The relationship between Rhaenyra and the head of the city guards in particular felt out of left field. Could have built that into something creepy by making allusions to him being a stand-in for Daemon like Rhaenyra is trying to relive that night.
BTW, how old is Daemon suppose to be? 40s?
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Post subject: Re: House of the Dragon (2022, HBO2theMAX)
Posted: Mon September 26, 2022 12:07 pm
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Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 7:41 am Posts: 19721 Location: Cumberland, RI
It's difficult to tell how old anyone is supposed to be because of how the timeline differs between the show and the books. But going just by the books, Harwin died in 120 AC, when Rhaenyra was 23 and Daemon was 39. But I think the show wants us to view Daemon as a bit younger and Rhaenyra as a bit older. 25 and 35 or so.
Post subject: Re: House of the Dragon (2022, HBO2theMAX)
Posted: Mon September 26, 2022 3:10 pm
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Joined: Wed December 19, 2012 7:17 pm Posts: 7553
Larys did kinda come out of nowhere, but he was there subtly: the hunt episode where he is limping around the women gossiping in the tent and then he’s the one that fractured Alicent’s trust of Rhaenyra in the Godswood. He’s another in a long line of overlooked people that use people thinking their physical detriments make them harmless a la Tyrion
Post subject: Re: House of the Dragon (2022, HBO2theMAX)
Posted: Mon September 26, 2022 3:34 pm
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Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 7:41 am Posts: 19721 Location: Cumberland, RI
Mecca wrote:
Larys did kinda come out of nowhere, but he was there subtly: the hunt episode where he is limping around the women gossiping in the tent and then he’s the one that fractured Alicent’s trust of Rhaenyra in the Godswood. He’s another in a long line of overlooked people that use people thinking their physical detriments make them harmless a la Tyrion
There's a theory floating around that he's a greenseer who's skinchanging into all the rats we see to gather intel around the Red Keep.
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