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 Post subject: Bret Easton Ellis
PostPosted: Sun August 04, 2013 4:13 am 
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As im about to see The Canyons ( maybe tomorrow), and chances are that is going to suck; i cant help to like this guy.
Lunar Park is one of my favorites from him.
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 Post subject: Re: Bret Easton Ellis
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I read American Psycho. The movie is better/more successful than the book, I think. I also didn't hate the film versions of Rules of Attraction and Less Than Zero.


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durdencommatyler wrote:
I read American Psycho. The movie is better/more successful than the book, I think. I also didn't hate the film versions of Rules of Attraction and Less Than Zero.


I dont think the movie is better..is a good adaptation though. The book is just insane...Less Than Zero and Imperial Bedrooms were pretty good..but Lunar Park, its his best one i think.

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For me, the satire gets lost in the book. It's too graphic and intense; too difficult to read in places. The movie captures the book perfectly and nails the tone without turning the audience off.


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durdencommatyler wrote:
For me, the satire gets lost in the book. It's too graphic and intense; too difficult to read in places. The movie captures the book perfectly and nails the tone without turning the audience off.


That.

The book is too long and repetitive.

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 Post subject: Re: Bret Easton Ellis
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I feel like I always enjoy his books while I'm reading them, but they don't hold up to repeated readings.

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theplatypus wrote:
I feel like I always enjoy his books while I'm reading them, but they don't hold up to repeated readings.


Maybe.
But not with American Psycho and Lunar Park for me. I will never read Glamourama again though.

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my wife streamed The Canyons on itunes. Lol what a crapfest


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bodysnatcher wrote:
my wife streamed The Canyons on itunes. Lol what a crapfest


im going to watch it; im sure it will be hilarious.

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VinylGuy wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
my wife streamed The Canyons on itunes. Lol what a crapfest


im going to watch it; im sure it will be hilarious.

I've read multiple reviews that say it's actually too bad too be hilarious. It's just sad, I guess.


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That NYC piece on the movie was fucking hilarious...i can picture Paul Schrader going crazy with Lohan...and Ellis trying to hook up with that porn star....

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 Post subject: Re: Bret Easton Ellis
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Less Than Zero, the film, pretty much misses any darkness of LA that the novel had, but it was the 80s and starred Andrew McCarthy. I really only watch for RDJ but as time told he culled a portion of that role from, well...

The Rules of Attraction, the film, is the best adaptation of an Ellis novel to film; solid pretty much all around which is helped by Avary being perhaps BEE's biggest fan.

American psycho, the film, completely leaves out Bateman's father which is a major part of the novel. I see the film and the book much like Fight Club in being two tied but separate entities.

The Informers isn't much of a novel but compared to the film in any context is a timeless masterpiece.

Glamorama is my favorite novel of his and one thing in particular that I adore about it is that it is a novel that simply cannot be made into a film. I find it far too huge an endeavor that would fail on almost every level it attempted and of course superfan Avary continues to try and get it made.

Lunar Park was fairly enjoyable and has been on mind mind a lot since The Canyons news.

Imperial Bedrooms I felt was rushed and didn't really hit home. I should probably reread because that was also a release I was clamoring for that I suitably built up way too much in my mind.

I backed The Canyons a bit and was at the NYC screening last week. Met Paul Schrader and Nolan Funk and enjoyed the film, though I got more out of it watching it again this past Saturday night. I'm glad they made it and it is far from terrible; they did a fair amount with the micro-budget and it is certainly an interesting story to tell.

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 Post subject: Re: Bret Easton Ellis
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I like him as a writer. I think he's pretty misunderstood. And American Psycho is one of my absolute favorite movies.


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 Post subject: Re: Bret Easton Ellis
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d,t might be interested in this, good read:

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/j ... are_btn_tw

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d,t might be interested in this, good read:

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/j ... are_btn_tw

I agree with a lot of the article. Again, my issue with the violence is that it's just too much. Which I believe was intentional. I think the article correctly points out that the violence is commentary and I have no issue with that. But it is super tough to read and want to keep reading.

Also, my problem with the book overall is the ending, which, I think, totally undercuts the poignant satire. The movie is superior in that it's ending is much more ambiguous and liquid. Only after reading the book does the ending take a more definite shape, which is a disservice to the narrative.

But, yeah, that's a good article and really manages to hit the main points. Though, obviously, I would argue that Fight Club (both film and novel) are superior and more affective.


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 Post subject: Re: Bret Easton Ellis
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I loved Less Than Zero, American Psycho, The Rules of Attraction, and The Informers when I was a teenager.



I can't help but think they're all kinda garbage now though. All style and no substance. A lot of swears and pop culture references to cover up any semblance of story-telling.

But that's just me.

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Lament wrote:
I loved Less Than Zero, American Psycho, The Rules of Attraction, and The Informers when I was a teenager.



I can't help but think they're all kinda garbage now though. All style and no substance. A lot of swears and pop culture references to cover up any semblance of story-telling.

But that's just me.

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 Post subject: Re: Bret Easton Ellis
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Glad to have you in my camp, sir.

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 Post subject: Re: Bret Easton Ellis
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Mulling over what to read next after finishing Tony and Susan by Wright the other day I found that The Shards was published this past January. Looking forward to it though 608 pages is a weighty fuckin' tome.

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Ellis's first novel in 13 years, The Shards is a fictionalized memoir of Ellis's final year of high school in 1981 in Los Angeles.

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 Post subject: Re: Bret Easton Ellis
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yeah, i havent got that one yet, i expect to get it next month

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