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The book is great. However, after reading it I also found out about Card, and despite owning several of his other books, I have not read them. Heard Ender's Shadow and Speaker Of The Dead are more than worth it.
I agree with what was said about Mel Gibson earlier. I'll also watch his movies, and the same for most other artists I don't agree with. But it seems to affect me more when it comes to Card. I'll watch the movie though.
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I kinda wonder about the point of a boycott. Does it accomplish anything more than teaching people to hide their real opinions on something? Would he suddenly see the error of his ways and really change? Is it a pat on the back for crushing a bigot? It would make sense if there was a message in the movie about it.
Just seems like the automatic response is boycott. whats the goal?
edit: I guess in a round about way it might keep him from funneling profits into anti-gay groups. But then he probably has more money than God by now anyway. oh well. I haven't seen it because it looks like crap.
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Ok I finished this book today and really really enjoyed it but Card is hiding something. I lost count of the times it's about naked boys, showers, people touching him in his sleep. This guys probably not gay, but he does have a badly disguised ephebophilic or even paediohilic streak in him. Also could hear his own voice and opinion coming through far too often in matters religious. Still a great book and I'm 50/50 if I want to see the film after it.
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dimejinky99 wrote:
Ok I finished this book today and really really enjoyed it but Card is hiding something. I lost count of the times it's about naked boys, showers, people touching him in his sleep. This guys probably not gay, but he does have a badly disguised ephebophilic or even paediohilic streak in him. Also could hear his own voice and opinion coming through far too often in matters religious. Still a great book and I'm 50/50 if I want to see the film after it.
highly religious people have a tendency of having a lot of, uh, repression to process through... my opinion.
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I kinda wonder about the point of a boycott. Does it accomplish anything more than teaching people to hide their real opinions on something? Would he suddenly see the error of his ways and really change? Is it a pat on the back for crushing a bigot? It would make sense if there was a message in the movie about it.
Just seems like the automatic response is boycott. whats the goal?
edit: I guess in a round about way it might keep him from funneling profits into anti-gay groups. But then he probably has more money than God by now anyway. oh well. I haven't seen it because it looks like crap.
According to the article in Sunday's paper he claims he's deeply in debt right now and rushing to finish obligations so that a second stroke wont leave his wife an in-debt widow. It will probably result in some fanttastic novels.
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BurtReynolds wrote:
I kinda wonder about the point of a boycott. Does it accomplish anything more than teaching people to hide their real opinions on something? Would he suddenly see the error of his ways and really change? Is it a pat on the back for crushing a bigot? It would make sense if there was a message in the movie about it.
Just seems like the automatic response is boycott. whats the goal?
edit: I guess in a round about way it might keep him from funneling profits into anti-gay groups. But then he probably has more money than God by now anyway. oh well. I haven't seen it because it looks like crap.
According to the article in Sunday's paper he claims he's deeply in debt right now and rushing to finish obligations so that a second stroke wont leave his wife an in-debt widow. It will probably result in some fanttastic novels.
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I'm afraid to watch this given the withering level of scorn McP has for this. What if I like it? Can I sink lower than enjoying watching Harrison ford reprise Indian jones in crystal skull?
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I just watched it the other day and agree with ruddo..it's a good little movie but then takes the end of the book and completely squashes it down into what actually happens but gives absolutely no explanation why, other than him feeling guilty. (there was a lot more to that in the book).
I know the books are a series. I cant see any sequels being made from this.
The main character is a cool little actor, plays the part really well, and Ford is just, well, Ford.
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