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Norris · **Posted:** Tue December 18, 2018 10:41 pm

durdencommatyler wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Is Winds of winter the last book?

No. If it ever comes out it will be the 6th book. He's announced it's 7 now. It was 3 originally, then it became 5 at one point and it's been 7 for a while now but I'm sure he'll announce at least an 8th book if he ever finishes Winds of Winter (which SPOILER ALERT!!! .... he won't).

The vindication I'm going to feel towards you when it's finally released is going to be so, so sweet.

Norris · **Posted:** Tue December 18, 2018 10:42 pm

dimejinky99 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Is Winds of winter the last book?

No. If it ever comes out it will be the 6th book. He's announced it's 7 now. It was 3 originally, then it became 5 at one point and it's been 7 for a while now but I'm sure he'll announce at least an 8th book if he ever finishes Winds of Winter (which SPOILER ALERT!!! .... he won't).

I find the main books to be bloated and a chore for the most part.

epilogue · **Posted:** Tue December 18, 2018 10:42 pm

cutuphalfdead wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Is Winds of winter the last book?

No. If it ever comes out it will be the 6th book. He's announced it's 7 now. It was 3 originally, then it became 5 at one point and it's been 7 for a while now but I'm sure he'll announce at least an 8th book if he ever finishes Winds of Winter (which SPOILER ALERT!!! .... he won't).

The vindication I'm going to feel towards you when it's finally released is going to be so, so sweet.

I'M ACTIVELY ROOTING FOR YOU PETE!!!

Norris · **Posted:** Mon December 31, 2018 7:01 am

Norris · **Posted:** Sat January 12, 2019 8:09 pm

On whether JonCon knows R+L=J

Connington's entire motivation is based on his unrequited romantic love for Rhaegar. Everything he's doing for Young Griff is out of the shame in failing the love of his life. If he was aware that there was another son of Rhaegar he could be fighting for, I think it changes a lot about Connington as we know him in ADWD. Even if his exile to Essos doesn't allow him to change his actions from what he's doing in Dance we still have his inner monologue. He'd know that Aegon wasn't really the last chance at restoring Rhaegar's heir to the Iron Throne and I think that would drastically alter the way he feels about everything he's doing, for better or worse.

Simple Torture · **Posted:** Sat January 12, 2019 8:21 pm

I think you're right.

Mecca · **Joined:** Wed December 19, 2012 7:17 pm **Posts:** 7553

Rewatching the show: Robb takes the Crag, seat of house Westerling. They easily could’ve kept the Jeyne character and made Robb die because of honor

epilogue · **Posted:** Wed March 06, 2019 10:45 pm

I'm diving into theories on the Prophecy of the Valonqar.

It's gonna be Arya isn't it? :heartbeat:

epilogue · **Posted:** Wed March 06, 2019 10:48 pm

At least in the show.

I did see a WONDERFULLY tinfoil theory that it's gonna be Lady Stoneheart. And I goddamn LOVE that, too. It would be fucking perfect in the books. But since there is not LS in the show, it has to be Arya.

pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease

Norris · **Posted:** Wed March 06, 2019 10:55 pm

It's Jaime.

epilogue · **Posted:** Wed March 06, 2019 10:56 pm

"Hands" though

Norris · **Posted:** Wed March 06, 2019 11:04 pm

maybe he'll be hand of the king at that point and use his chain, which is made of golden hands

or maybe prophecy isn't always completely literal

i just think thematically jaime makes the most sense

Anders · **Posted:** Wed March 06, 2019 11:23 pm

I love Arya, but it would be a bit disappointing. Better if it is Jamie.

epilogue · **Posted:** Wed March 06, 2019 11:49 pm

cutuphalfdead wrote:

maybe he'll be hand of the king at that point and use his chain, which is made of golden hands

or maybe prophecy isn't always completely literal

i just think thematically jaime makes the most sense

I like the cut of your jib, buddy. But I think Arya also makes a ton of sense. Especially given all the other "clues."

epilogue · **Posted:** Thu March 07, 2019 12:12 am

Jamie certainly does make thematic sense, though. But I just feel like so does Arya (especially in the show). And I wonder if it would be out of character for Jamie.

Mecca · **Joined:** Wed December 19, 2012 7:17 pm **Posts:** 7553

durdencommatyler wrote:

Jamie certainly does make thematic sense, though. But I just feel like so does Arya (especially in the show). And I wonder if it would be out of character for Jamie.

Jamie as Azhor Ahai would make the most sense; plunging his sword into the heart of the one he loved tempered the steel that forged Lightbringer and ended the long night.

Norris · **Posted:** Thu March 07, 2019 2:38 am

Jaime is the Valonqar.

Jon Snow and Daenerys Targaryen are both Azor Ahai. Their's is the song of ice and fire.

Norris · **Posted:** Thu March 07, 2019 2:43 am

Interesting take: https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comment ... is_a_meta/

(f)Aegon's storyline as a meta critique of what Jon Snow's storyline would have felt like had GRRM not abandoned the five year gap.

Mecca · **Joined:** Wed December 19, 2012 7:17 pm **Posts:** 7553

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Jaime is the Valonqar.

Jon Snow and Daenerys Targaryen are both Azor Ahai. Their's is the song of ice and fire.

Aerys fancied Joanna Lannister...

Norris · **Posted:** Thu March 07, 2019 3:46 am

Mecca wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Jaime is the Valonqar.

Jon Snow and Daenerys Targaryen are both Azor Ahai. Their's is the song of ice and fire.

Aerys fancied Joanna Lannister...

Tyrion is Tywin's son.

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