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They should’ve just ended with John sitting down to watch the movie, the title card comes up, maybe “starring Daniel Day Lewis,” and fade to black.
the movie that could be made about gene and barry and the rest of it, in the universe of the show, after everything that's happened, is the negation of what the show Barry is. not only that, (and this isn't my thought, but i find it totally compelling) but Mask Collector's cast is filled by the exact kinds of actors who were in gene's class. hacks.
how could daniel day-lewis play gene, given the public account of what's happened? why would he take that role? what major studio would touch this story? it is the stuff of tabloids and is ripe for the b- or z-grade direct-to-streaming treatment it receives in Barry.
the irony of the redemption on offer in Mask Collector is it is a redemption only persuasive to children and psychopaths -- it's a redemption that barry himself imagined, in the moments while he prayed, before he was reunited with john. it's a redemption he abandoned before he was murdered. it's a redemption that may not even be palatable to john, given what sally told him about barry and herself -- that they are murders. this irony is only available to john, to sally, and to us.
but then again, the stunted myths peddled in Mask Collector would hold obvious appeal for john. the series ends by restaging for john in cinematic terms the choice barry couldn't make. to the extent john accepts this movie is the extent to which he remains a child or, worse, becomes undone by his own pathologies.
as ever, things are fucked in Barry.
(brilliant casting of jim cummings as barry in MC)
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I remember I was in Miami when it happened. I was posting from the balcony of my apartment overlooking the beach. And I was having an argument with Adamdude.
i am now convinced this hangs w sopranos, mad men, deadwood and the wire.
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Jorge wrote:
I remember I was in Miami when it happened. I was posting from the balcony of my apartment overlooking the beach. And I was having an argument with Adamdude.
i am now convinced this hangs w sopranos, mad men, deadwood and the wire.
I fell asleep sometime after Sally leaves the musical and need to go back and watch again, but I would hesitate to give it that much praise. That being said, I think this show had some of the best shots and set pieces in any comedy I’ve seen. They paused the recap podcast because Hader is standing in solidarity with the WGA, but I also loved hearing about the thought process behind some decisions or what old movies some of the shots or feelings were an homage to
i am now convinced this hangs w sopranos, mad men, deadwood and the wire.
I fell asleep sometime after Sally leaves the musical and need to go back and watch again, but I would hesitate to give it that much praise. That being said, I think this show had some of the best shots and set pieces in any comedy I’ve seen. They paused the recap podcast because Hader is standing in solidarity with the WGA, but I also loved hearing about the thought process behind some decisions or what old movies some of the shots or feelings were an homage to
part of my thinking is that never have i grasped the force of a television series' totality -- that its parts form a whole that exceeds them. Barry contains one of the best single episodes of television ("ronny/lily") ever, but on a individual level the episodes too often seemed like a mixed bag. the clarity that those mixed episodes obtain when viewed as part of a larger whole isn't something ive seen much in television.
everything about the show is so ambitious. the visual language. the beats, comic and surreal. its ideas about performance and the culture industry weren't necessarily novel, but they were trenchant.
anyway, he pulled it off. fuck. i didn't think he could.
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I remember I was in Miami when it happened. I was posting from the balcony of my apartment overlooking the beach. And I was having an argument with Adamdude.
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one of my favorite things about Barry is its form. 30 minutes to put the pearls in the fire and get them out? the fuck out of here!
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Jorge wrote:
I remember I was in Miami when it happened. I was posting from the balcony of my apartment overlooking the beach. And I was having an argument with Adamdude.
finally read the nyer interview with hader. is everyone in hollywood a friend of george saunders? feel like his name keeps coming up in interviews with movie people
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I remember I was in Miami when it happened. I was posting from the balcony of my apartment overlooking the beach. And I was having an argument with Adamdude.
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Mecca wrote:
Malloy wrote:
i am now convinced this hangs w sopranos, mad men, deadwood and the wire.
I fell asleep sometime after Sally leaves the musical and need to go back and watch again, but I would hesitate to give it that much praise. That being said, I think this show had some of the best shots and set pieces in any comedy I’ve seen. They paused the recap podcast because Hader is standing in solidarity with the WGA, but I also loved hearing about the thought process behind some decisions or what old movies some of the shots or feelings were an homage to
Hader gets into some more of his inspirations on the latest Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend, albeit in less serious fashion.
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I could have done without the mask collector viewing, but it's fine. I really like how this ended up. A Fuchs spinoff mini series of him back in Chechnya or Mexico with one of his girlfriends would be funny.
The lobbed grenade that takes out the last 3 of The Raven's crew made me laugh out loud. Classic Barry moment.
i am now convinced this hangs w sopranos, mad men, deadwood and the wire.
I fell asleep sometime after Sally leaves the musical and need to go back and watch again, but I would hesitate to give it that much praise. That being said, I think this show had some of the best shots and set pieces in any comedy I’ve seen. They paused the recap podcast because Hader is standing in solidarity with the WGA, but I also loved hearing about the thought process behind some decisions or what old movies some of the shots or feelings were an homage to
Hader gets into some more of his inspirations on the latest Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend, albeit in less serious fashion.
His impression of Lorne and Larry David had me going
I could have done without the mask collector viewing, but it's fine. I really like how this ended up. A Fuchs spinoff mini series of him back in Chechnya or Mexico with one of his girlfriends would be funny.
The lobbed grenade that takes out the last 3 of The Raven's crew made me laugh out loud. Classic Barry moment.
Yeah that grenade lob was way funnier than it had any business being. Just the camera tracking that scene of Fuches finding Jonathan and walking him out; I was wondering where Sally ended up just as she started calling out and appeared from behind that pillar
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