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tragabigzanda wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:The tone is very similar, and, yes, It takes place in the '80s. Which makes perfect sense. Contemporary audiences aren't going to feel nostalgic for the '50s in the way the original audience for the book would have, and this way the second movie can be set in present time.
Interesting that you like nostalgia in 'It' but not in Stranger Things.
For me it isn't the nostalgia that's important. The larger themes of America in the 50's is far more potent. What King was doing in the book had little to do with nostalgia and everything to do with the myth and menace of 50's Americana. Losing that kinda sucks. At least in my mind. Again, I haven't seen the film.
But the same holds true for the adult stuff in part two. There are so many great parallels to the whole "child abduction" boom/obsession/fear in the 80s that played so well in contrast with the 50's stuff in the book. Maybe they're using that as the starting point in the movie (the 80's stuff) but I have a hard time imagining what modern day equivalent will be. Anyway... my opinion on the matter is fairly meaningless until I actually watch the damn thing.
Another vote for "placing the movie in the 80s works." Really well, in fact.
Thu November 02, 2017 4:48 pm
Thu November 02, 2017 4:53 pm
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I think it could be argued that the '80s represent a certain kind of hollow Americana to modern generations that the '50s did to older generations.
Thu November 02, 2017 5:00 pm
durdencommatyler wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:The tone is very similar, and, yes, It takes place in the '80s. Which makes perfect sense. Contemporary audiences aren't going to feel nostalgic for the '50s in the way the original audience for the book would have, and this way the second movie can be set in present time.
Interesting that you like nostalgia in 'It' but not in Stranger Things.
For me it isn't the nostalgia that's important. The larger themes of America in the 50's is far more potent. What King was doing in the book had little to do with nostalgia and everything to do with the myth and menace of 50's Americana. Losing that kinda sucks. At least in my mind. Again, I haven't seen the film.
But the same holds true for the adult stuff in part two. There are so many great parallels to the whole "child abduction" boom/obsession/fear in the 80s that played so well in contrast with the 50's stuff in the book. Maybe they're using that as the starting point in the movie (the 80's stuff) but I have a hard time imagining what modern day equivalent will be. Anyway... my opinion on the matter is fairly meaningless until I actually watch the damn thing.
Another vote for "placing the movie in the 80s works." Really well, in fact.
Cool. So without spoiling anything major about the movie (I saw the old mini-series and read the book, so you can be loose with the term "Spoiler" as I know the story), as a fan of the book and the film, can you speak more to why the 80's move worked for you? Did you miss any of the subtext and commentary from the book by changing the decade? How do they replace all that tension, texture and thematic exploration of the 1950's and perceived Americana in the movie? What themes/ideas/menaces take the place of all that stuff?
LoathedVermin72 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:For the record, I never said I "liked" the nostalgia in It.
Fair enough. I inferred from your post that you were fine with the nostalgia in the 'It' film but you seem to be enraged by it on Stranger Things. But, you're right. You never said that.
The difference is that It doesn't bank on nostalgia the way ST does. It's not chocked full of eye-roll-y references. I think it changes the backdrop for reasons of relatability and topicality; the sociopolitical menace of '50s Americana isn't exactly a super potent/relevant theme for a mainstream audience right now.
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tragabigzanda wrote:This would be good.
http://collider.com/it-2-cast-jessica-c ... rly-marsh/
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