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 Post subject: Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
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 Post subject: Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
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I just think it's weird to have a problem with artful, flowery language being used to describe art.

I dont find it artful or flowery. Its some dick sitting down at his desk with a thesaurus and using as many words as he can to not actually explain anything.

Kevin Davis is flowery and artful, Pitchfork is donald trump with a thesaurus


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Strat wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
I just think it's weird to have a problem with artful, flowery language being used to describe art.

I dont find it artful or flowery. Its some dick sitting down at his desk with a thesaurus and using as many words as he can to not actually explain anything.

Kevin Davis is flowery and artful, Pitchfork is donald trump with a thesaurus

It's like KD said though, there are many writers who write with varying degrees of quality that work or have worked for pitchfork over the years.


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 Post subject: Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
Strat wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
I just think it's weird to have a problem with artful, flowery language being used to describe art.

I dont find it artful or flowery. Its some dick sitting down at his desk with a thesaurus and using as many words as he can to not actually explain anything.

Kevin Davis is flowery and artful, Pitchfork is donald trump with a thesaurus

It's like KD said though, there are many writers who write with varying degrees of quality that work or have worked for pitchfork over the years.

I, of course, haven't read the entire thread.


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 Post subject: Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
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I think artful language is okay, desireable even; the problem is when the writing becomes merely a vanity project for the author. To the extent that music writing has a "job," beyond its diminishing role as a consumer buyer's guide, I think that job is to look at something abstract and explain it in a way that is more concrete -- I know a lot of my favorite music writing works this way, essentially telling me why something works as it does in a way my more visceral reaction to the music can't articulate. Personal essay, humor, etc., can all contribute greatly to this, but I think it's usually pretty clear when a writer's indulgences are pointing somewhere and when he's just self-servingly talking out of his ass.

To a certain extent, all music criticism is kind of ridiculous, with the exception of Jorge's and my Elvis Costello column for "Trunkworthy." You really can't blame people for running out of new ways to say "I like this" or "this sucks" after all these years.


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Never in my wildest dreams did I envision four pages for this thread on its debut day.


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 Post subject: Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
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 Post subject: Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
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i'm firmly on team sometimes i like pitchfork

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 Post subject: Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
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i don't know about you guys, but pitchfork's reviews of pearl jam's last 4 studio albums have been spot on.


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lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
i'm firmly on team sometimes i like pitchfork

WTF? There was something I added to this post that got lost somehow.


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 Post subject: Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
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tragabigzanda wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
i'm firmly on team sometimes i like pitchfork

i don't really pay attention to specific writers, just casually read reviews from time to time

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Love this:

Pitchfork wrote:
Pearl Jam are arguably the only modern rock band of note that consciously moved away from its formative, hit-making sound—in the period spanning Vitalogy through to 2000’s Binaural—but came out the other side an even more traditional, predictable band.


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very interesting fact: i don't listen to pearl jam anymore

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interesting, but not very interesting


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bodysnatcher wrote:
interesting, but not very interesting

i hope this revelation doesn't ruin my rm image

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lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
interesting, but not very interesting

i hope this revelation doesn't ruin my rm image

You're currently pulling a 6.8/10.


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tragabigzanda wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
interesting, but not very interesting

i hope this revelation doesn't ruin my rm image

You're currently pulling a 6.8/10.


i would have said 6.7 but since it's your thread i'll say 6.8


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