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 Post subject: Re: wilco
PostPosted: Sun November 10, 2013 6:46 pm 
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I'm a weirdo.

Being There
Summerteeth
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
A Ghost is Born
Sky Blue Sky
The Whole Love
Wilco (The Album)

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A.M.


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Blaine Ryan wrote:
I'm a weirdo.

Being There
Summerteeth
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
A Ghost is Born
Sky Blue Sky
The Whole Love
Wilco (The Album)

Uncle Tupelo
A.M.

No you're not. Those are my top3 too.


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LetMeSleep wrote:
Blaine Ryan wrote:
I'm a weirdo.

Being There
Summerteeth
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
A Ghost is Born
Sky Blue Sky
The Whole Love
Wilco (The Album)

Uncle Tupelo
A.M.

No you're not. Those are my top3 too.


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Guys, The Whole Love is fantastic.


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 Post subject: Re: wilco
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I'll have to listen to it. I can't say that I've heard the last 2 or remember hearing them. Sky Blue Sky was okay from memory.


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Guys, The Whole Love is fantastic.


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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 Post subject: Re: wilco
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It is a good album, the opening track is a monster.


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 Post subject: Re: wilco
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The Whole Love and Sky Blue Sky are very good albums that I revisit often. But nothing this band has done post-AGIB has really moved me in the same way as those early records; I'm not familiar enough with the behind-the-scenes stuff to know how much that has to do with the lineup changes and how much of it is simply due to Tweedy's songwriting (I suspect it's more the latter), but there's been a discernible decline since A Ghost is Born, to my ears.


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I feel the songs have become secondary to the production and the jamming.


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Blaine Ryan wrote:
The Whole Love and Sky Blue Sky are very good albums that I revisit often. But nothing this band has done post-AGIB has really moved me in the same way as those early records; I'm not familiar enough with the behind-the-scenes stuff to know how much that has to do with the lineup changes and how much of it is simply due to Tweedy's songwriting (I suspect it's more the latter), but there's been a discernible decline since A Ghost is Born, to my ears.


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 Post subject: Re: wilco
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What's the deal with the AM hate? Bunch of pinko, communists, latte drinking hipsters! Go ride your bikes to work in your hemp sweaters! Really though what's the deal?


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What's the deal with the AM hate? Bunch of pinko, communists, latte drinking hipsters! Go ride your bikes to work in your hemp sweaters! Really though what's the deal?


I like it.


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A.M. is far and away better than their last two albums, at least to me. I know Whole Love and Wilco have decent high points but there isn't enough to hold my interest. A.M. is pretty fun in the right situation.

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The problem is that the band is trying to accommodate Nels Cline's "sound," which often makes the songs languish.

Bottom line: this band misses Jim O'Rourke and/or Jay Bennet.


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The Whole Love is a pretty damn good album, IMO. It's not on the level of Being There --> AGIB, but it's nothing to be ashamed of. I think they're out of the period where they'll be making classic record one after the other, but I don't think there's anything they're really doing wrong with their songwriting.


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They've been really boring since AGIB. Wallpaper music.


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digster wrote:
The Whole Love is a pretty damn good album, IMO. It's not on the level of Being There --> AGIB, but it's nothing to be ashamed of. I think they're out of the period where they'll be making classic record one after the other, but I don't think there's anything they're really doing wrong with their songwriting.


That's what I was thinking...it's not like they've gotten stale with the songwriting. They're not to the spectacular level they were at for a couple records but they've yet to put out anything that you can't put on and enjoy if you're in the right headspace. They take some chances and also have some bad ideas on their records now, but they're certainly nothing to think as being really bad.


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digster wrote:
The Whole Love is a pretty damn good album, IMO. It's not on the level of Being There --> AGIB, but it's nothing to be ashamed of. I think they're out of the period where they'll be making classic record one after the other, but I don't think there's anything they're really doing wrong with their songwriting.


Their albums post-AGIB are a mess. The Whole Love is a great example: you have Art of Almost on the same album as Capital City (which could be their worst song since something on AM). Or on Sky Blue Sky, you have Side with the Seeds (which is probably their best song since AGIB) on the same album as Hate It Here.

Overall, there is this propensity to satisfy all genres, and I think it weakens each album.


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Chris_H_2 wrote:
digster wrote:
The Whole Love is a pretty damn good album, IMO. It's not on the level of Being There --> AGIB, but it's nothing to be ashamed of. I think they're out of the period where they'll be making classic record one after the other, but I don't think there's anything they're really doing wrong with their songwriting.


Their albums post-AGIB are a mess. The Whole Love is a great example: you have Art of Almost on the same album as Capital City (which could be their worst song since something on AM). Or on Sky Blue Sky, you have Side with the Seeds (which is probably their best song since AGIB) on the same album as Hate It Here.

Overall, there is this propensity to satisfy all genres, and I think it weakens each album.


Definitely less consistent, but I could skip songs on all their records guilt-free...all the way back to the beginning. The records aren't nearly as good, but aren't that bad.


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Chris_H_2 wrote:
The problem is that the band is trying to accommodate Nels Cline's "sound," which often makes the songs languish.

Bottom line: this band misses Jim O'Rourke and/or Jay Bennet.


I actually disagree with that. I think the main reason Sky Blue Sky was so surprising to people was that everyone thought when Nels came on board they were going to go even further down the AGIB-guitar skronk rabbit hole. They've kept that live, but I think there's only been a few examples of things on their last records (Bull Black Nova, Art of Almost) where they've done what I think people were expecting more of when Nels came on.


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