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Post subject: Re: Purple Rain: The Official Prince Thread.
Posted: Sun September 01, 2013 7:10 pm
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turned2black wrote:
doug rr wrote:
that's a bit odd considering he is a jehovah's witness
He wasn't one in the 80s, not that it would have matter to these people.
Jehovah's Witnesses are a devil's cult according to those people, though.
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Post subject: Re: Purple Rain: The Official Prince Thread.
Posted: Sun September 01, 2013 7:28 pm
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VinylGuy wrote:
Musicology is great. It took me a while to like it, but its his best album since mid 90s.
I could never get into Musicology as much as everyone else did. For me The Rainbow Children is probably still my favorite album he's done since The Gold Experience. The Everlasting Now and Last December are beautiful.
Post subject: Re: Purple Rain: The Official Prince Thread.
Posted: Sun September 01, 2013 8:37 pm
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doug rr wrote:
one of the greatest living guitarists
agree. I saw him in 1985 (I think) at the Carrier Dome (Syracuse University) - dude blew the fucking roof off. one of the few concerts where I left in awe of the performer.
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Post subject: Re: Purple Rain: The Official Prince Thread.
Posted: Sun September 01, 2013 9:58 pm
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malice wrote:
doug rr wrote:
one of the greatest living guitarists
agree. I saw him in 1985 (I think) at the Carrier Dome (Syracuse University) - dude blew the fucking roof off. one of the few concerts where I left in awe of the performer.
Damn. I'm so jealous. What I wouldn't give to have been able to see him at the height of his powers. That must have just been unbelievable.
Post subject: Re: Purple Rain: The Official Prince Thread.
Posted: Sun September 01, 2013 10:16 pm
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Lament wrote:
malice wrote:
doug rr wrote:
one of the greatest living guitarists
agree. I saw him in 1985 (I think) at the Carrier Dome (Syracuse University) - dude blew the fucking roof off. one of the few concerts where I left in awe of the performer.
Damn. I'm so jealous. What I wouldn't give to have been able to see him at the height of his powers. That must have just been unbelievable.
i figure if i can remember it, it was pretty amazing. that was a great weekend all the way around.
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Post subject: Re: Purple Rain: The Official Prince Thread.
Posted: Mon September 30, 2013 7:59 pm
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I'm totally new to Prince apart from the obvious singles, but thanks to Lament, have now started down the rabbit hole. So far I've listened right through to:
Purple Rain -- much enjoyed, inventive but not intimidating. 1999 -- stranger, apocalyptic space funk with lasers. Enjoyed but not quite as immediately, apart from those famous ones.
Both albums are full of the camp and keyboards I was expecting, but somehow the songs and themes can take all of that. I'm not sure about the extent to which I'm supposed to find half the stuff hilarious (this was the 80s, he might've meant everything deadly seriously), but I think I'm right in thinking it's deliberately very lighthearted and funny.
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Post subject: Re: Purple Rain: The Official Prince Thread.
Posted: Mon September 30, 2013 8:12 pm
jeeeesus relax already
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harmless wrote:
I'm totally new to Prince apart from the obvious singles, but thanks to Lament, have now started down the rabbit hole. So far I've listened right through to:
Purple Rain -- much enjoyed, inventive but not intimidating. 1999 -- stranger, apocalyptic space funk with lasers. Enjoyed but not quite as immediately, apart from those famous ones.
Both albums are full of the camp and keyboards I was expecting, but somehow the songs and themes can take all of that. I'm not sure about the extent to which I'm supposed to find half the stuff hilarious (this was the 80s, he might've meant everything deadly seriously), but I think I'm right in thinking it's deliberately very lighthearted and funny.
please get Lovesexy and Musicology. The last one is really funky...great production, more modern. And after those, Sign o`the times.
Post subject: Re: Purple Rain: The Official Prince Thread.
Posted: Mon September 30, 2013 8:18 pm
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VinylGuy wrote:
harmless wrote:
I'm totally new to Prince apart from the obvious singles, but thanks to Lament, have now started down the rabbit hole. So far I've listened right through to:
Purple Rain -- much enjoyed, inventive but not intimidating. 1999 -- stranger, apocalyptic space funk with lasers. Enjoyed but not quite as immediately, apart from those famous ones.
Both albums are full of the camp and keyboards I was expecting, but somehow the songs and themes can take all of that. I'm not sure about the extent to which I'm supposed to find half the stuff hilarious (this was the 80s, he might've meant everything deadly seriously), but I think I'm right in thinking it's deliberately very lighthearted and funny.
please get Lovesexy and Musicology. The last one is really funky...great production, more modern. And after those, Sign o`the times.
Your love for Musicology perplexes me, though I respect it.
Lovesexy is pure genius, but I would say to go with Sign "O" The Times next. After Purple Rain and 1999, it makes sense to go after the big daddy of them all. And after that I'd fill out the rest of the 1980-1988 run of records.
Post subject: Re: Purple Rain: The Official Prince Thread.
Posted: Mon September 30, 2013 8:25 pm
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Lament wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
harmless wrote:
I'm totally new to Prince apart from the obvious singles, but thanks to Lament, have now started down the rabbit hole. So far I've listened right through to:
Purple Rain -- much enjoyed, inventive but not intimidating. 1999 -- stranger, apocalyptic space funk with lasers. Enjoyed but not quite as immediately, apart from those famous ones.
Both albums are full of the camp and keyboards I was expecting, but somehow the songs and themes can take all of that. I'm not sure about the extent to which I'm supposed to find half the stuff hilarious (this was the 80s, he might've meant everything deadly seriously), but I think I'm right in thinking it's deliberately very lighthearted and funny.
please get Lovesexy and Musicology. The last one is really funky...great production, more modern. And after those, Sign o`the times.
Your love for Musicology perplexes me, though I respect it.
Lovesexy is pure genius, but I would say to go with Sign "O" The Times next. After Purple Rain and 1999, it makes sense to go after the big daddy of them all. And after that I'd fill out the rest of the 1980-1988 run of records.
Got it.
Is 1999 supposed to sound really... dark? "Lady Cab Driver" is pretty sinister (misogynistic almost), and then "All the Critics Love You"... it sounds like satire. But am I reading too much back in from the 21st century here? Did these albums court controversy?
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Post subject: Re: Purple Rain: The Official Prince Thread.
Posted: Mon September 30, 2013 8:32 pm
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harmless wrote:
Lament wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
harmless wrote:
I'm totally new to Prince apart from the obvious singles, but thanks to Lament, have now started down the rabbit hole. So far I've listened right through to:
Purple Rain -- much enjoyed, inventive but not intimidating. 1999 -- stranger, apocalyptic space funk with lasers. Enjoyed but not quite as immediately, apart from those famous ones.
Both albums are full of the camp and keyboards I was expecting, but somehow the songs and themes can take all of that. I'm not sure about the extent to which I'm supposed to find half the stuff hilarious (this was the 80s, he might've meant everything deadly seriously), but I think I'm right in thinking it's deliberately very lighthearted and funny.
please get Lovesexy and Musicology. The last one is really funky...great production, more modern. And after those, Sign o`the times.
Your love for Musicology perplexes me, though I respect it.
Lovesexy is pure genius, but I would say to go with Sign "O" The Times next. After Purple Rain and 1999, it makes sense to go after the big daddy of them all. And after that I'd fill out the rest of the 1980-1988 run of records.
Got it.
Is 1999 supposed to sound really... dark? "Lady Cab Driver" is pretty sinister (misogynistic almost), and then "All the Critics Love You"... it sounds like satire. But am I reading too much back in from the 21st century here? Did these albums court controversy?
Yeah, from Dirty Mind through probably even Purple Rain, Prince was actually a pretty dark artist, and his fanbase was generally considered to be dour, serious, sinister weirdos. Because of all the transformations he's gone through since then, it seems odd, but you'd be surprised what a big chunk of his very early fanbase was new wave/gothic/industrial type fans. You'd be surprised how often even today when you're hanging out in an industrial or new wave club a DJ will toss on or mix in Erotic City, Controversy, Head, 17 Days, Let's Pretend We're Married, etc.
Those albums did court a lot of controversy. 1999 and Purple Rain were two of the albums that most led to the formation of the PMRC and the development of the Parental Advisory sticker in the US (specifically the songs Let's Pretend We're Married and Darling Nikki).
Post subject: Re: Purple Rain: The Official Prince Thread.
Posted: Mon September 30, 2013 8:35 pm
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Lament wrote:
harmless wrote:
Lament wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
harmless wrote:
I'm totally new to Prince apart from the obvious singles, but thanks to Lament, have now started down the rabbit hole. So far I've listened right through to:
Purple Rain -- much enjoyed, inventive but not intimidating. 1999 -- stranger, apocalyptic space funk with lasers. Enjoyed but not quite as immediately, apart from those famous ones.
Both albums are full of the camp and keyboards I was expecting, but somehow the songs and themes can take all of that. I'm not sure about the extent to which I'm supposed to find half the stuff hilarious (this was the 80s, he might've meant everything deadly seriously), but I think I'm right in thinking it's deliberately very lighthearted and funny.
please get Lovesexy and Musicology. The last one is really funky...great production, more modern. And after those, Sign o`the times.
Your love for Musicology perplexes me, though I respect it.
Lovesexy is pure genius, but I would say to go with Sign "O" The Times next. After Purple Rain and 1999, it makes sense to go after the big daddy of them all. And after that I'd fill out the rest of the 1980-1988 run of records.
Got it.
Is 1999 supposed to sound really... dark? "Lady Cab Driver" is pretty sinister (misogynistic almost), and then "All the Critics Love You"... it sounds like satire. But am I reading too much back in from the 21st century here? Did these albums court controversy?
Yeah, from Dirty Mind through probably even Purple Rain, Prince was actually a pretty dark artist, and his fanbase was generally considered to be dour, serious, sinister weirdos. Because of all the transformations he's gone through since then, it seems odd, but you'd be surprised what a big chunk of his very early fanbase was new wave/gothic/industrial type fans. You'd be surprised how often even today when you're hanging out in an industrial or new wave club a DJ will toss on or mix in Erotic City, Controversy, Head, 17 Days, Let's Pretend We're Married, etc.
Those albums did court a lot of controversy. 1999 and Purple Rain were two of the albums that most led to the formation of the PMRC and the development of the Parental Advisory sticker in the US (specifically the songs Let's Pretend We're Married and Darling Nikki).
Wow, that's interesting
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Post subject: Re: Purple Rain: The Official Prince Thread.
Posted: Mon September 30, 2013 8:43 pm
jeeeesus relax already
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Lament wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
harmless wrote:
I'm totally new to Prince apart from the obvious singles, but thanks to Lament, have now started down the rabbit hole. So far I've listened right through to:
Purple Rain -- much enjoyed, inventive but not intimidating. 1999 -- stranger, apocalyptic space funk with lasers. Enjoyed but not quite as immediately, apart from those famous ones.
Both albums are full of the camp and keyboards I was expecting, but somehow the songs and themes can take all of that. I'm not sure about the extent to which I'm supposed to find half the stuff hilarious (this was the 80s, he might've meant everything deadly seriously), but I think I'm right in thinking it's deliberately very lighthearted and funny.
please get Lovesexy and Musicology. The last one is really funky...great production, more modern. And after those, Sign o`the times.
Your love for Musicology perplexes me, though I respect it.
Lovesexy is pure genius, but I would say to go with Sign "O" The Times next. After Purple Rain and 1999, it makes sense to go after the big daddy of them all. And after that I'd fill out the rest of the 1980-1988 run of records.
Musicology is the album that got me interested again in his music...after so long, i remember watching the video and just dance through that sexy bass line. I would say its his last great album, and one of the most accessible one, specially for starters.
Post subject: Re: Purple Rain: The Official Prince Thread.
Posted: Mon September 30, 2013 8:51 pm
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It seems very un-RMlike that no one has attempted to rank their preferences of his albums. So I'm gonna open that really unpleasant box of worms...
1. Sign "O" The Times 2. Dirty Mind 3. Purple Rain 4. Lovesexy 5. Parade 6. Controversy 7. 1999 8. The Gold Experience 9. The Rainbow Children 10. Around The World In A Day 11. Prince 12. Come 13. Love Symbol/O(+> 14. Diamonds & Pearls 15. The Black Album 16. Graffiti Bridge 17. N.E.W.S. 18. Planet Earth 19. Batman 20. MPLSound 21. For You 22. 20Ten 23. Lotusflow3r 24. Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic 25. Musicology 26. Chaos & Disorder 27. 3121 28. Emancipation 29. Newpowersoul
Post subject: Re: Purple Rain: The Official Prince Thread.
Posted: Mon September 30, 2013 8:57 pm
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VinylGuy wrote:
Musicology is the album that got me interested again in his music...after so long, i remember watching the video and just dance through that sexy bass line. I would say its his last great album, and one of the most accessible one, specially for starters.
I can see how it would be a good, accessible album for people who are coming to his work at what might seem like a dauntingly late point in his career. I guess as someone who never stopped paying attention to him it was just a letdown after The Rainbow Children (which for me is far and away his best post-1995 work), and N.E.W.S. (which hinted towards a lot of exciting things that didn't start to manifest until Planet Earth and MPLSound, and to be fair didn't end up being as exciting as a lot of us had hoped). It has some decent songs on it, but in terms of his late career attempts to make more accessible music, I prefer Rave over it (even though Rave in retrospect was a false start, and Musicology obviously accomplished what he wanted it to).
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