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 Post subject: Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.
PostPosted: Sat February 01, 2020 6:55 am 
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I deleted a post because I feel like I'm posting too much about a band I don't really have a deep relationship with and haven't enjoyed any of their new records in twenty years or more.

Anyway, less Frusciante and Klinghoffer, more Hillel Slovak (and Jack Irons)!



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Flea was at the Lakers game tonight. He seemed pretty devastated about Mamba.


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I still feel bad for Josh. John should have called him too. What an asshole.

Also i feel Kiedis dont quite like John.

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I found Josh to come across as quite unlikeable in both this and the Maron interview.

He seems clear-headed and gracious about the whole thing, even though he is obviously bummed. I don't know how you get to "unlikeable".

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theplatypus wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
I found Josh to come across as quite unlikeable in both this and the Maron interview.

He seems clear-headed and gracious about the whole thing, even though he is obviously bummed. I don't know how you get to "unlikeable".

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Strat wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
I found Josh to come across as quite unlikeable in both this and the Maron interview.

He seems clear-headed and gracious about the whole thing, even though he is obviously bummed. I don't know how you get to "unlikeable".

Spenno falls asleep at concerts.

Haha that’s so Spenno

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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Strat wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
I found Josh to come across as quite unlikeable in both this and the Maron interview.

He seems clear-headed and gracious about the whole thing, even though he is obviously bummed. I don't know how you get to "unlikeable".

Spenno falls asleep at concerts.

Haha that’s so Spenno

This has only happened a few times.

It's probably an unfair assessment of Josh, seeing as I don't know the guy.

It wasn't his response to his firing as such either, more that he comes across like an overgrown teenager and also kind of disingenuous about his career. It seemed to me as though he's unwilling to acknowledge how his own choices have contributed to his career frustrations. He also seems very calculating in the way he progressed his career, particularly his entry into the Chili Peppers. Like I said a few pages back, I wouldn't be surprised if Frusciante ended their friendship as he realised Klinghoffer viewed it as more transactional than he did, but that's just a guess.


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I think we’ve been sort of spoiled by PJ, who all seem to be great guys. I think most bonafide rock stars are arrogant dickheads.


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Kaius wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:

That said, the album is very long, so as is my wont, I retracked it and have been enjoying my new version much more than the original form:

1. Can't Stop (How did they not open with this song considering that percussive intro?!)
2. By the Way
3. The Zephyr Song
4. This is the Place
5. Universally Speaking
6. Venice Queen (REALLY like US and VQ as a mid-album one > two punch.)
7. Throw Away Your Television
8. Minor Thing
9. Midnight
10. Dosed
11. Cabron

I love By the Way but agree that it’s just a little bloated. I’ve never pared it down myself, so I’m going to check this out. Sad to see Tear left off, but I’ll listen first before judging.

This was straight fire, man. Probably going to be my go-to version of BtW now.

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 Post subject: Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.
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Kaius wrote:
Kaius wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:

That said, the album is very long, so as is my wont, I retracked it and have been enjoying my new version much more than the original form:

1. Can't Stop (How did they not open with this song considering that percussive intro?!)
2. By the Way
3. The Zephyr Song
4. This is the Place
5. Universally Speaking
6. Venice Queen (REALLY like US and VQ as a mid-album one > two punch.)
7. Throw Away Your Television
8. Minor Thing
9. Midnight
10. Dosed
11. Cabron

I love By the Way but agree that it’s just a little bloated. I’ve never pared it down myself, so I’m going to check this out. Sad to see Tear left off, but I’ll listen first before judging.

This was straight fire, man. Probably going to be my go-to version of BtW now.

:hooray:

What’s your trimmed SA track list? I might start with that because the thought of a 2-hour album is daunting.

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I can confirm his SA track list is awesome. But this BTW tracklist doesn’t look great to me. But honestly I love that album as is.


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I might try making a revised By the Way tracklist soon.

I can tell you now, Universally Speaking is going right in the trash.


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Birds in Hell wrote:
I might try making a revised By the Way tracklist soon.

I can tell you now, Universally Speaking is going right in the trash.

That’d be the first id cut too


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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
So thanks to Jorge talking about "Universally Speaking" and the resultant conversation, I've been revisiting By the Way for the first time since high school, at which time I had written off most of this band as bro-y garbage (probably thanks in part to them being THE ubiquitous favorite band of all the jocks in my high school), but I'm finding that notion is not holding true for this album at all. I'm surprised by how delicate and tasteful the playing, compositions, and even the vocals ( :!: ) are. "Dosed" and "Minor Thing" are particularly lovely.

That said, the album is very long, so as is my wont, I retracked it and have been enjoying my new version much more than the original form:

1. Can't Stop (How did they not open with this song considering that percussive intro?!)
2. By the Way
3. The Zephyr Song
4. This is the Place
5. Universally Speaking
6. Venice Queen (REALLY like US and VQ as a mid-album one > two punch.)
7. Throw Away Your Television
8. Minor Thing
9. Midnight
10. Dosed
11. Cabron


I never expected this album to become one of my favourites, especiallly at the time of release when all the singles were coming out. Even though all the singles are strong I've left most of them off because I've heard them enough.


By The Way/Cant stop
This Is The Place
Dosed
Out Of Range
On Mercury
Midnight
Minor Thing
Body Of Water
Venice Queen
Warm Tape
Universally Speaking
Cabron
Dont Forget Me
Someone

I wanted to put tear, rivers of avalon and havana affair in there somewhere but then it would probably defeat the purpose of trimming the album down. This version could possibly also not flow very well, but it has all the songs I listen to most, and changes the vibe a lot.


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Kaius wrote:
I know this is quite egotistical, and certainly unpopular, but my “Stadium Arcadium Prime” mix might make for my favorite RHCP album.

Lol this was an incredibly terrible take

I gotta regroup

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I listened to the BTW outtakes and you guys are high if you think any of those should be on the album

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I might try to finally listen to Stadium Arcadium and give another listen to By The Way.

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Ha! Kiedis wrote in his book about how disappointing was to work with Andy in their first album. Basically, he hated them and gotta say, he was right.

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