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Post subject: Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 2:12 am
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Kevin Davis wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
I completely lost all interest in RHCP after Californication. I don’t even know what albums were released after that. But for some reason when the last album was coming out I was aware of it. I listened to and liked Dark Necessities quite a bit. The title track was decent too. I was shocked. After the album came out and was all over YouTube, I gave the rest of it a once over. It was boring and terrible. I never listened to any of those songs again. I’ll still occasionally listen to those first two singles and I still shockingly enjoy them.
I think "By the Way" is easily their best album from front to back -- worth a listen if you've never given it a shot.
I might do that, KD. But I honestly don’t think I can handle listening to an entire RHCP album. It just gets super annoying and “same-y” after about 3 songs. Maybe “By the Way” would be different but I doubt it.
Post subject: Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 3:16 am
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PHATJ wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
I completely lost all interest in RHCP after Californication. I don’t even know what albums were released after that. But for some reason when the last album was coming out I was aware of it. I listened to and liked Dark Necessities quite a bit. The title track was decent too. I was shocked. After the album came out and was all over YouTube, I gave the rest of it a once over. It was boring and terrible. I never listened to any of those songs again. I’ll still occasionally listen to those first two singles and I still shockingly enjoy them.
I think "By the Way" is easily their best album from front to back -- worth a listen if you've never given it a shot.
I might do that, KD. But I honestly don’t think I can handle listening to an entire RHCP album. It just gets super annoying and “same-y” after about 3 songs. Maybe “By the Way” would be different but I doubt it.
KD is right, though, PJ. “Tear” and “Venice Queen” are my two favorite RHCP songs ever.
Post subject: Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 3:51 am
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Kevin Davis wrote:
Top 10?
Soul to Squeeze Give it Away Tearjerker This Velvet Glove Porcelain Easily Cabron Minor Thing Warm Tape Bunker Hill
Their melodicism during the "Californication"/"By the Way" era was just off the charts. Great songs, great B-sides -- a really inspired creative period. I have no use for their '80's stuff, and haven't really liked anything since "By the Way," but I really enjoy that middle period.
Sure, here's mine. This was difficult.
Soul To Squeeze Under the Bridge Warped Around the World This Is the Place Give It Away Purple Stain Aeroplane Scar Tissue Tied for 10th: Emit Remmus / Gong Li / This Velvet Glove
I agree about their melodies from the Cali/BTW era, and the way John (and to a lesser extent, Flea) fill out the harmonies. I think their funk stuff, when at its very best, rivals the melodic stuff from this period. But the difference is that you have to bushwhack your way through a fair amount of self-derivative (and at times mindless) funk-rock stuff to get to the really great cuts, but they are there.
What's your take on One Hot Minute? It's every bit as lush as By The Way, it's just with a fairly harder (though still very melodic) edge to the music.
Post subject: Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 4:20 am
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I think "One Hot Minute" is excellent -- lacking the cohesive vision of the next couple records, perhaps, but that step beyond their comfort zone led them to some heavy, psychedelic places that nonetheless seemed very natural and genuine (I can't imagine them ever having done a song like "Deep Kick" with John). That said, it was also the first RHCP album I really experienced, so my awareness of its outlier status and of the difficulty a lot of fans had accepting it really only came with hindsight. But I can still play it through with relish all these years later, where I find myself skipping more and more tracks on "BSSM."
I'm kind of of two minds about Frusciante. Specifically, I think he's an extraordinary rhythm player, but some of his lead playing really stinks (there's a lot of it on the "Californication"/"By the Way" stuff, but the one that always comes to mind is "Dosed" -- really clunky, like the guitarist equivalent of an old lady pecking out one letter at a time on a computer keyboard). I hear something like "Funky Monks" and wonder how it could be the same person. You're dead on about his harmony singing, though -- it's a secret weapon, and it's a shame it took til "By the Way" for them to really use it to its potential.
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Post subject: Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 7:59 am
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Tear Blood sugar sex magik Other side Soul to squeeze Don't forget me Tearjerker Gong Li
Not a huge fan, but I think that's about all I love theses days, I jumped off after by the way and havnt deliberately listened to anything since, unfirtunately I think they have way more bad songs than good, there is probably a few other good ones that I'm just sick of.
Post subject: Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 4:21 pm
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Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm Posts: 47163 Location: In the oatmeal aisle wearing a Shellac shirt
Freewheelin wrote:
Tear Blood sugar sex magik Other side Soul to squeeze Don't forget me Tearjerker Gong Li
Not a huge fan, but I think that's about all I love theses days, I jumped off after by the way and havnt deliberately listened to anything since, unfirtunately I think they have way more bad songs than good, there is probably a few other good ones that I'm just sick of.
this is an odd list. and you're not missing anything after By the Way
Post subject: Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 5:40 pm
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I am an unabashed fan of RHCP. Everything from BSSM through Stadium Arcadium I love in varying degrees and I also enjoyed a substantial amount of I’m With You and The Getaway. I don’t really care about Kiedis or his rep.
Post subject: Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 5:43 pm
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Kaius wrote:
I am an unabashed fan of RHCP. Everything from BSSM through Stadium Arcadium I love in varying degrees and I also enjoyed a substantial amount of I’m With You and The Getaway. I don’t really care about Kiedis or his rep.
I want to love Stadium Arcadium. It's got Frusciante, it's a double album, it came on the heels of By the Way...But it just feels so limpdicked to me. The drums are especially neutered.
Post subject: Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 6:11 pm
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I had to track this down from a post in the other RHCP thread. My one-disc version of SA.
Kaius wrote:
OK, I present to you Stadium Arcadium Prime. The best 12 tracks from "Mars"/"Jupiter", and 2 tracks that didn't make the final cut for RHCP but should have, the "Venus" tracks. I even took some time to put them in a very enjoyable order.
Hump De Bump Dani California Readymade 21st Century Million Miles of Water Stadium Arcadium Wet Sand Strip My Mind Torture Me Storm in a Teacup Mercy Mercy Desecration Smile Hard To Concentrate Turn It Again
This is basically all of my 5-star songs from the album, to put it in some quantifiable terms. There's a lot of 4-star stuff left over, so I guess that tells you in more detail how I feel about SA. Though, I will concede to some degree that had the album been trimmed down to this, it would probably have been even more impacting than it was as the slightly watered down double-album.
Post subject: Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 6:23 pm
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Kaius wrote:
I had to track this down from a post in the other RHCP thread. My one-disc version of SA.
Kaius wrote:
OK, I present to you Stadium Arcadium Prime. The best 12 tracks from "Mars"/"Jupiter", and 2 tracks that didn't make the final cut for RHCP but should have, the "Venus" tracks. I even took some time to put them in a very enjoyable order.
Hump De Bump Dani California Readymade 21st Century Million Miles of Water Stadium Arcadium Wet Sand Strip My Mind Torture Me Storm in a Teacup Mercy Mercy Desecration Smile Hard To Concentrate Turn It Again
This is basically all of my 5-star songs from the album, to put it in some quantifiable terms. There's a lot of 4-star stuff left over, so I guess that tells you in more detail how I feel about SA. Though, I will concede to some degree that had the album been trimmed down to this, it would probably have been even more impacting than it was as the slightly watered down double-album.
Post subject: Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.
Posted: Tue June 26, 2018 11:29 pm
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I’ll try again soon but I find By the Way to be really limp and dreary; I think I’m more disposed to the funkier, aggressive aspects of their sound. BSSM remains the high point for me, with some excellent stuff on Californication too.
Post subject: Re: Behind The Sun: The Official RHCP Thread.
Posted: Wed June 27, 2018 2:53 pm
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Kaius wrote:
I had to track this down from a post in the other RHCP thread. My one-disc version of SA.
Kaius wrote:
OK, I present to you Stadium Arcadium Prime. The best 12 tracks from "Mars"/"Jupiter", and 2 tracks that didn't make the final cut for RHCP but should have, the "Venus" tracks. I even took some time to put them in a very enjoyable order.
Hump De Bump Dani California Readymade 21st Century Million Miles of Water Stadium Arcadium Wet Sand Strip My Mind Torture Me Storm in a Teacup Mercy Mercy Desecration Smile Hard To Concentrate Turn It Again
This is basically all of my 5-star songs from the album, to put it in some quantifiable terms. There's a lot of 4-star stuff left over, so I guess that tells you in more detail how I feel about SA. Though, I will concede to some degree that had the album been trimmed down to this, it would probably have been even more impacting than it was as the slightly watered down double-album.
I might switch a couple out, but I agree it's underrated. Turn It Again is so damn good.
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