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 Post subject: Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 7:54 pm 
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And in holding this idea, I do not appreciate being seen as a white man with white man opinions any more than I would as a black man.

You're slipping into Rachel Dolezal territory here: "From the comfort of my entire life as a white man, let me pretend for a moment what I would feel if I were a black man."

Just because I'm white doesn't mean you know me and the unique challenges I've faced as a human being.

So what? I can guarantee they're nothing like the typical black male experience.


Lol you absolutely can't. Jesus you people are letting tree of all people run mental circles around you.

Where has this thread been all my life?

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 Post subject: Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden
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 Post subject: Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden
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BurtReynolds wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
tree_ wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
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And in holding this idea, I do not appreciate being seen as a white man with white man opinions any more than I would as a black man.

You're slipping into Rachel Dolezal territory here: "From the comfort of my entire life as a white man, let me pretend for a moment what I would feel if I were a black man."

Just because I'm white doesn't mean you know me and the unique challenges I've faced as a human being.

So what? I can guarantee they're nothing like the typical black male experience.


Lol you absolutely can't. Jesus you people are letting tree of all people run mental circles around you.

Where has this thread been all my life?

LOL seriously. I'm not that smart.

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 Post subject: Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden
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i guess what tree_ is trying to say is that soundgarden is better


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 Post subject: Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden
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I'm not gonna wade into this one, but here's my favorite bit of racial identity politics to counter the brain dead "angry white men" trope...
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 Post subject: Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden
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BurtReynolds wrote:
Lol you absolutely can't.


Sure I can, because I know enough about tree to know that he hasn't been subjected to the following:
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1. When you're systemically disenfranchised from education, financial resources, good health care;
2. Have low availability of nutrient-rich foods;
3. Are raised in a community rife with criminal convictions, absentee fathers, drug addiction;
4. Are racially profiled and made to feel inferior in even the most benign of circumstances;


And while he may have been subjected to one or two of them, with his own unique challenges on top of those, there's no way he's been subjected to this particular experience (or a better defined, more highly educated summation of the black experience).

Your refutation is based on a hypothetical, that tree might possibly have experienced the sort of institutionalized racism that blacks have. Which in theory could be true, but in reality is not.


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 Post subject: Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden
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I'm not gonna wade into this one, but here's my favorite bit of racial identity politics to counter the brain dead "angry white men" trope...
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That's your favorite one? Literally, your favorite?


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 Post subject: Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden
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Yes. It is a work of art.

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 Post subject: Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden
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 Post subject: Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden
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 Post subject: Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden
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 Post subject: Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden
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She should hook up with this guy to ease racial meme tensions.

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 Post subject: Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden
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yeah, that's the best take on that I've seen all week


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 Post subject: Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden
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I agree with nearly everything tree_ has said and I get why he is annoyed. you guys feel you have the right to judge his experience based on superficial characteristics. meanwhile many of his posts indicate he's been through some heavy stuff. when it comes down to it, it all reeks of some priveleged folks speaking on behalf of a minority.

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I agree with nearly everything tree_ has said and I get why he is annoyed. you guys feel you have the right to judge his experience based on superficial characteristics. meanwhile many of his posts indicate he's been through some heavy stuff. when it comes down to it, it all reeks of some priveleged folks speaking on behalf of a minority.

Every single person on RM is privileged.


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tragabigzanda wrote:
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I agree with nearly everything tree_ has said and I get why he is annoyed. you guys feel you have the right to judge his experience based on superficial characteristics. meanwhile many of his posts indicate he's been through some heavy stuff. when it comes down to it, it all reeks of some priveleged folks speaking on behalf of a minority.

Every single person on RM is privileged.

relatively speaking? seems like a meaningless critique.

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 Post subject: Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden
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Dev wrote:
I agree with nearly everything tree_ has said and I get why he is annoyed. you guys feel you have the right to judge his experience based on superficial characteristics. meanwhile many of his posts indicate he's been through some heavy stuff. when it comes down to it, it all reeks of some priveleged folks speaking on behalf of a minority.

That seems like a bizarre take-away, to be honest. Are you sure you're not just being contrarian to pick a fight and stir some shit? Trag and I aren't judging him or his experiences. I believe has been through some heavy stuff and I'm sure that stuff has had a powerful affect on his worldview. None of that has anything to do with what tree was talking about as I understood it. But, again, I admit, I got a lost in exactly what we were discussing. So, maybe I'm wrong.


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Dev wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
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I agree with nearly everything tree_ has said and I get why he is annoyed. you guys feel you have the right to judge his experience based on superficial characteristics. meanwhile many of his posts indicate he's been through some heavy stuff. when it comes down to it, it all reeks of some priveleged folks speaking on behalf of a minority.

Every single person on RM is privileged.

relatively speaking? seems like a meaningless critique.

How is it meaningless?


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durdencommatyler wrote:
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I agree with nearly everything tree_ has said and I get why he is annoyed. you guys feel you have the right to judge his experience based on superficial characteristics. meanwhile many of his posts indicate he's been through some heavy stuff. when it comes down to it, it all reeks of some priveleged folks speaking on behalf of a minority.

Every single person on RM is privileged.

relatively speaking? seems like a meaningless critique.

How is it meaningless?

because everyone is priveleged relatively speaking..

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durdencommatyler wrote:
Dev wrote:
I agree with nearly everything tree_ has said and I get why he is annoyed. you guys feel you have the right to judge his experience based on superficial characteristics. meanwhile many of his posts indicate he's been through some heavy stuff. when it comes down to it, it all reeks of some priveleged folks speaking on behalf of a minority.

That seems like a bizarre take-away, to be honest. Are you sure you're not just being contrarian to pick a fight and stir some shit? Trag and I aren't judging him or his experiences. I believe has been through some heavy stuff and I'm sure that stuff has had a powerful affect on his worldview. None of that has anything to do with what tree was talking about as I understood it. But, again, I admit, I got a lost in exactly what we were discussing. So, maybe I'm wrong.

I'm just calling it the way I see it. No gimmick.

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